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re: Jim Harbaugh vs Brady Hoke through 31 games as HC at Michigan
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:29 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:29 pm to RollTide1987
I see your point, but what exactly has he said that's so bad? Like the other poster said it's the medias fault, not his. SC and ND get similar treatment.
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Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:32 pm to RLDSC FAN
let's not forget he is responsible for two very impressive rebuilds elsewhere.
Does this board want to downplay how, in only 4 years, he took stanford from the worse P5 team in the country to a 12-1 elite team? Or what he did at SF?
Does this board want to downplay how, in only 4 years, he took stanford from the worse P5 team in the country to a 12-1 elite team? Or what he did at SF?
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:33 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Don't let this board get to you dude. He'll be fine, he just needs a new OC. Drevno was at SC for a year and I can tell you that all the players were happy to see him leave.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 1:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It’s not his fault. I really think you just miss the entire point of this.
It’s just showing others he’s not as special as many may have thought.
That’s it.
Why are you being so defensive and making it out to be anything more.
It’s just showing others he’s not as special as many may have thought.
That’s it.
Why are you being so defensive and making it out to be anything more.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 1:59 pm to SPEEDY
It's fun to beat up on Michigan and Harbaugh but I have a feeling he'll be able to maintain a program unlike Hoke.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 2:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Michigan was 5-7 the year before Harbaugh.
Since then:
10-3
10-3
Currently 4-1
How is Harbaugh failing?
Not everyone can go undefeated. In fact, after the regular season and before the playoffs only two teams in the entire nation were undefeated...Alabama and Western Michigan.
Since then:
10-3
10-3
Currently 4-1
How is Harbaugh failing?
Not everyone can go undefeated. In fact, after the regular season and before the playoffs only two teams in the entire nation were undefeated...Alabama and Western Michigan.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:02 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
He's performing at the same level as Brady Hoke but behind paid twice as much
Are you dense or something?
Are you dense or something?
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:04 pm to beauchristopher
quote:
t’s just showing others he’s not as special as many may have thought.
Exactly he's a slightly above average coach performing at the level an above average coach would perform
Props to his agent for the marketing and the branding him as an elite level guy
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:08 pm to rocket31
quote:Let's see how rest of season goes.
He's performing at the same level as Brady Hoke but behind paid twice as much
Hoke's third year ended in disaster, finsihed like 2-6.
Harbaugh can show he is worthy of his salary if he figures something out and fixes this offensive dumpster fire.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:09 pm to rocket31
You're dense if you think that Harbaugh is going to end up like Hoke.
It's fun to post early stats and assume a flat-line across the career.
Yeah...because they have a similar record in their first couple of years...
So of course Harbaugh will fall of a cliff like Hoke.
I swear, the assumptions people make and rush to conclusions on the MSB.
The money he's being paid is for the long-term...Hoke couldn't recruit like Harbaugh. His early success was mostly players he never recruited. When he did fully get his whole team of all his players, Michigan tumbled
The fact you think Harbaugh is a bust with his early record and how he has turned around dismal programs and hasn't yet had a full team of just his players is pretty pathetic even for you.
It's fun to post early stats and assume a flat-line across the career.
Yeah...because they have a similar record in their first couple of years...
So of course Harbaugh will fall of a cliff like Hoke.
I swear, the assumptions people make and rush to conclusions on the MSB.
The money he's being paid is for the long-term...Hoke couldn't recruit like Harbaugh. His early success was mostly players he never recruited. When he did fully get his whole team of all his players, Michigan tumbled
The fact you think Harbaugh is a bust with his early record and how he has turned around dismal programs and hasn't yet had a full team of just his players is pretty pathetic even for you.
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:12 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Who said he's going to end up like Hoke?
He has performed, to date, at exactly Hokes level
Slightly above average. 3rd in the BigTen east
He has performed, to date, at exactly Hokes level
Slightly above average. 3rd in the BigTen east
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:14 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
Harbaugh can show he is worthy of his salary if he figures something out and fixes this offensive dumpster fire.
Obviously it's concerning to have such offensive struggles in the third year
They've played a terrible schedule to date as well
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:14 pm to rocket31
This really makes you wonder just wtf happened to hoke in the middle of year 3.
Did he forget how to run a program? Things seemed at least somewhat stable. He was 5-0 and then bam.
Did he forget how to run a program? Things seemed at least somewhat stable. He was 5-0 and then bam.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:15 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
What is he supposed to do? Have a press conference imploring the sports media to stop talking about him?
Saban sort of just did exactly that.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:20 pm to SPEEDY
Harbaugh is a top 5 coach, Michigan blew arse before he got there.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:So when Michigan loses to PSU next Saturday, Wisconsin in November and tOSU to end the season will you start to lose confidence?
He lost his last 4 vs them.....
He wasn't fired, btw.
But yes, as of now, Harbs is more Lloyd than Saban/Meyer.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
How is it his fault that the media hypes him up?
The media isn't the only one who hypes him up. Harbaugh also hypes himself up. The guy is the very picture of self-importance. He truly believes he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:40 pm to TigerNlc
quote:
Harbaugh is a top 5 coach, Michigan blew arse before he got there.
They are the winningest program in college football history....
Posted on 10/8/17 at 4:00 pm to idlewatcher
quote:
et compare their salaries. JH has gamed the system perfectly.
JH turned Stanford into a power and then made it to a super bowl. He does a have a resume which justifies salary.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 4:29 pm to dukke v
quote:
Harbaugh is WAY overated...
Please tell me what he has really won???????
The hearts and minds of the people with money.
Money isn't the most important thing. It's the only thing.
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