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re: IYO, who had the greatest peak in sports history?
Posted on 3/1/17 at 9:03 pm to TT9
Posted on 3/1/17 at 9:03 pm to TT9
From 1997 through 2008, Woods was a combined 126 under par in majors. There are 138 other players who played at least 40 rounds in major championships in that span. Among that group, Woods was a staggering 189 shots better than anyone else. Second on the list: Joe Ogilvie, at 63 over.
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Posted on 3/1/17 at 9:06 pm to Tyga Woods
Jesus Christ
Posted on 3/1/17 at 9:09 pm to TT9
Ikr.
I forgot to credit Golf Channel for the stats.
I forgot to credit Golf Channel for the stats.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 9:23 pm to ZZTIGERS
Secretariat--triple crown
Ruth
Koufax
Phelps
Karelin
Bud Wilkinson and Pat Summit gotta be considered
Ruth
Koufax
Phelps
Karelin
Bud Wilkinson and Pat Summit gotta be considered
Posted on 3/1/17 at 9:26 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
Bonds didn't remotely dominant his fellow generation like Ruth dominated his fellow generation.
Because his fellow generation was crap.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 9:28 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
Ruth was SO much better than Bonds was against his contemporaries.
Bonds has 7 mvps while playing in a league with far far far more talent.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 9:35 pm to Rickdaddy4188
You're measured against who you play against dipshite.
I'm sure Jordan would have been awesome in 1950..
But he wasn't a product of that time.
Oscar Robertson was.
No Bonds wouldn't have been awesome if he was born in the past because he would be a product of his time.
Now, if you are espousing time travel and saying 2001 Bonds would dominate the past...No shite.
But what does that mean?
NASA would sure dominate the Wright Bothers.
Bonds wouldn't dominate clise to Ruth if he was born in Ruth's time for the clear and undeniable fact that Bonds didn't come close to dominating his contemporaries like Ruth did.
That's how you measure best baseball players...Not who is the new flavor of the next generation.
Otherwise, it's always going to be...Whoever is next will be the best.
It's called evolution.
I'm sure Jordan would have been awesome in 1950..
But he wasn't a product of that time.
Oscar Robertson was.
No Bonds wouldn't have been awesome if he was born in the past because he would be a product of his time.
Now, if you are espousing time travel and saying 2001 Bonds would dominate the past...No shite.
But what does that mean?
NASA would sure dominate the Wright Bothers.
Bonds wouldn't dominate clise to Ruth if he was born in Ruth's time for the clear and undeniable fact that Bonds didn't come close to dominating his contemporaries like Ruth did.
That's how you measure best baseball players...Not who is the new flavor of the next generation.
Otherwise, it's always going to be...Whoever is next will be the best.
It's called evolution.
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 3/1/17 at 9:37 pm to pvilleguru
quote:
Easily this. From the 1981-87 seasons, the fewest goals in a regular season was 52, fewest assists was 118, and fewest points was 183. 4 of those 6 seasons he finished the regular season with over 200 points. Not to mention the 47 points he scored in the 1985 playoffs. Easily the greatest peak in major team sports. All of this in an 80 game season.
Gretzky is the Goat of goats, there will never be another like him in the NHL. In all other major sports there's a consideration of someone challenging the goat. In hockey, there's nobody close to Gretzky and there never will be.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 9:48 pm to AU4real35
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Gretzky is the Goat of goats, there will never be another like him in the NHL. In all other major sports there's a consideration of someone challenging the goat. In hockey, there's nobody close to Gretzky and there never will be.
He had four 200-point seasons.
The next highest was Lemieux with 199.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 9:55 pm to AU4real35
It's why he was called the Great One...In his prime... Actually early in his career.
That's the point of this thread...
Like Ruth - who outdistanced their contemporaries by so much.
Gretzky, Ruth, Moses, Phelps, Graf, Serena, Fed, Tiger...
Martinez wasn't that much better than every other pitcher and certainly Bonds wasn't...Hell a dude broke the record a year before.
That's the point of this thread...
Like Ruth - who outdistanced their contemporaries by so much.
Gretzky, Ruth, Moses, Phelps, Graf, Serena, Fed, Tiger...
Martinez wasn't that much better than every other pitcher and certainly Bonds wasn't...Hell a dude broke the record a year before.
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 3/1/17 at 9:59 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:Gretzky outdistanced everyone that came before and after him.
Like Ruth - who outdistanced their contemporaries by so much.
Gretzky STILL holds 60 records.
The NHL record book may as well link to Gretzky's Wikipedia page.
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:17 pm to pvilleguru
Then it's Gretzky.
I think the question has been answered.
Fitting.
I think the question has been answered.
Fitting.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:18 pm to ZZTIGERS
Have not read this thread, but has anyone mentioned Lasse Viren in the '76 Olympics?
In a space of roughly 10 days, the guy wins the 5k and 10k gold medals, after running qualifying heats in both events. Less than 24 hours after beating some great runners in a fantastic 5k final, the guy runs his first marathon and finishes a competitive 5th.
He was also the double gold medalist in the '72 Olympics at the 5k and 10k.
The guy knew how to peak.
In a space of roughly 10 days, the guy wins the 5k and 10k gold medals, after running qualifying heats in both events. Less than 24 hours after beating some great runners in a fantastic 5k final, the guy runs his first marathon and finishes a competitive 5th.
He was also the double gold medalist in the '72 Olympics at the 5k and 10k.
The guy knew how to peak.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:28 pm to ZZTIGERS
No one is going to agree with me but I get to show off my immense encyclopedic level knowledge of horse racing so frick it lol
There is a horse that is in Amy serious horse players top ten named Dr fager. He didn't win a triple crown or anything but he single handily half the best season of any athlete at least I believe
He ran in the mid 60s in the east coast. Starts off in a one turn sprint race, wins.
Fly's to California to run in the Californian a two turn mile 16th race, wins easily
Goes back to new York runs in the suburban a grade one handicap race, wins while tying the track record beating top 15 of all time demascus
Runs back in the grade one Brooklyn handicap against two other top 15 horse of all time demascus, loses by a head
Runs back again in the grade one grade one Whitney and wins easily
Then not only beats the shite out of demascus again, beats buckpassers who is a top 5 horse of all time in the Woodward a grade one
.goes to Arlington park cuts back to a mile in the Washington park handicap, breaks the WORLD record at a mile at 1:32 and one a record that still stands in 2017. Thsts ducking scorching fast
Obviously the best dirt horse in the world they say frick it lol lets do something new, they run in the most important turf race in America lol the united nations at least at the time. First time ever on grass against world class euro turf horses wins without even being pushed
Then tops it off winning the most prestigious sprint dirt race on earth the vosbrough
The end of the year he literally wins every award
Best sprinter
Best turf horse
Best older horse
Horse of the year
There is a horse that is in Amy serious horse players top ten named Dr fager. He didn't win a triple crown or anything but he single handily half the best season of any athlete at least I believe
He ran in the mid 60s in the east coast. Starts off in a one turn sprint race, wins.
Fly's to California to run in the Californian a two turn mile 16th race, wins easily
Goes back to new York runs in the suburban a grade one handicap race, wins while tying the track record beating top 15 of all time demascus
Runs back in the grade one Brooklyn handicap against two other top 15 horse of all time demascus, loses by a head
Runs back again in the grade one grade one Whitney and wins easily
Then not only beats the shite out of demascus again, beats buckpassers who is a top 5 horse of all time in the Woodward a grade one
.goes to Arlington park cuts back to a mile in the Washington park handicap, breaks the WORLD record at a mile at 1:32 and one a record that still stands in 2017. Thsts ducking scorching fast
Obviously the best dirt horse in the world they say frick it lol lets do something new, they run in the most important turf race in America lol the united nations at least at the time. First time ever on grass against world class euro turf horses wins without even being pushed
Then tops it off winning the most prestigious sprint dirt race on earth the vosbrough
The end of the year he literally wins every award
Best sprinter
Best turf horse
Best older horse
Horse of the year
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:38 pm to vengeanceofrain
I don't understand most of the lingo you used.
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:53 pm to Rockbrc
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Bud Wilkinson and Pat Summit gotta be considered
If we're talking coaches, Wooden and Geno have them beat. Possibly Lombardi or 72-73 Shula too. And if you look outside of the Yankees, what Sparky Anderson did in 75-76 has to be at or near the best of my lifetime. That offense was filthy, especially for its era. They won 210 games and 2 World Series in 2 seasons with a pitching staff led by Don Gullett and Jack Billingham. Absurd.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:12 pm to lsutigers1992
Wooden coached for 30 years but his 13
year peak was insane.
In 13 years his teams made the Final Four 12 times.
And he won the title 10 times.
In Wooden's first year at UCLA they won more games since 1919. They won their first conference title in 21 years.
year peak was insane.
In 13 years his teams made the Final Four 12 times.
And he won the title 10 times.
In Wooden's first year at UCLA they won more games since 1919. They won their first conference title in 21 years.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:37 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
2000-2002 Shaq was as dominant a player in the NBA during that stretch that I have ever seen. He was so dominant the NBA allowed zone defenses to be played in 2002 because no one man could guard Shaq. During that three year stretch he posted a PER above 30, won three NBA titles and had three nba finals MVP's. MJ's career was defined by isolation one on one play. Even with all his accomplishments the NBA never felt the need to change defensive rules to stop him. They however felt it necessary to change them to stop Shaq.
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 3/2/17 at 12:16 am to VA LSU fan
Mutumbo was DPOY and still in his prime when Shaq Averaged 38/20 on him in the finals.
This post was edited on 3/2/17 at 12:16 am
Posted on 3/2/17 at 12:22 am to OneMoreTime
That we don't consider Pedro Martinez to be the GoaT of pitching as we do like, say, MJ in basketball, is the dumbest fricking thing.
His stats are more ungodly than MJ's, too.
His stats are more ungodly than MJ's, too.
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