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Is there a bigger snub than Roquan Smith this year?

Posted on 1/8/21 at 8:59 pm
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 8:59 pm
He was left out of the pro bowl and 1st team all-pro teams despite having the best stats of any ILB in the game.

His stats vs the 3 guys who made it:

Tackles
Roquan Smith- 139
Bobby Wagner- 138
Darius Leonard- 132
Fred Warner- 129

Tackles for loss
Roquan Smith- 18
Darius Leonard- 7
Bobby Wagner- 7
Fred Warner- 5

Sacks
Roquan Smith- 4
Darius Leonard- 3
Bobby Wagner- 3
Fred Warner- 2

Interceptions
Roquan Smith- 2
Fred Warner- 2
Darius Leonard- 0
Bobby Wagner- 0

Pass defenses
Roquan Smith- 8
Bobby Wagner- 8
Fred Warner- 6
Darius Leonard- 6

ETA:

From 1BamaRTR:

AVG yards allowed when targeted
Roquan Smith- 3.6
Fred Warner- 4.4
Bobby Wagner- 6.0
Darius Leonard- 6.8

TDs allowed in coverage
Roquan Smith- 0
Fred Warner- 2
Bobby Wagner- 2
Darius Leonard- 3

Passer Rating when Targeted
Roquan Smith- 58.9
Fred Warner- 69.7
Bobby Wagner- 88.9
Darius Leonard- 109.2

He’s better than them at every single category and stat
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 9:09 pm
Posted by mattz1122
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:00 pm to
Who dat b
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:01 pm to
Bears LB. Former Butkus winner
Posted by mattz1122
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:01 pm to
Ty
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:02 pm to
Hopefully this affects him and he plays poorly Sunday.
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:02 pm to
He had a great game against y’all earlier this year
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:02 pm to
Demario Davis is an even bigger snub.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

Their coverage stats per PFR -
Smith : 290 YDS, 3.6 Y/T, 0 TDs allowed, 58.9 passer rating allowed

Leonard : 474 YDS, 6.8 Y/T, 3 TDs allowed, 109.2 passer rating allowed

Wagner : 488 YDS, 6.0 Y/T, 2 TDs allowed, 88.9 passer rating allowed

Warner : 270 YDS, 4.4 Y/T, 2 TDs allowed, 69.7 passer rating allowed


Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:04 pm to
Damn. He’s elite in pass coverage.

This is even worse than I thought
Posted by DollaChoppa
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:08 pm to
someone was posting about Devin White on the rant being a snub too compared to Warner so I added his stats in here too along with fumble recovery since ints was in here. Not sure if they messed up on LBers or what

Tackles
Devin White - 140
Roquan Smith- 139
Bobby Wagner- 138
Darius Leonard- 132
Fred Warner- 129

Tackles for loss
Roquan Smith- 18
Devin White - 15
Darius Leonard- 7
Bobby Wagner- 7
Fred Warner- 5

Sacks
Devin White - 9
Roquan Smith- 4
Darius Leonard- 3
Bobby Wagner- 3
Fred Warner- 2

Interceptions
Roquan Smith- 2
Fred Warner- 2
Devin White - 0
Darius Leonard- 0
Bobby Wagner- 0

Pass defenses
Roquan Smith- 8
Bobby Wagner- 8
Fred Warner- 6
Darius Leonard- 6
Devin White - 4

Fumble Recovered
Devin White - 2
Dareous Leonard - 2
Roquan Smith - 1
Bobby Wagner - 1
Fred Warner - 1
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 9:10 pm
Posted by Van Wilder
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:08 pm to
PFF has him as the 19th best ILB this season with an absolutely horrific grade of 39.8 against the run. He have lots of missed tackles?
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 9:11 pm
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

He have lots of missed tackles?


Not in the 6-7 Bears games I’ve watched this year. He’s the best tackler I ever saw in college. PFF grades often make zero sense
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 9:13 pm
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:14 pm to
Yeah but how many many pressures did he have?

/PFF
Posted by Van Wilder
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:27 pm to
Not saying PFF is everything, but their coverage grade for him(84) seems to match up with the stats posted in this thread.
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:31 pm to
I disagree. His coverage stats are insane. PFF says 65-75 are averafe for starters, 75-85 are very good, and 85+ is elite.

Based on those stats, it seems like he should definitely be in the elite category
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:59 pm to
seems like it should be 94, not 84.

like seriously holding someone to sub 60 passer rating? that's not elite?
Posted by tzimme4
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:03 pm to
I mean he couldn't even show up for his team's biggest game of the season
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 10:03 pm
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 1/9/21 at 7:02 am to
[img]Hopefully this affects him and he plays poorly Sunday[/img]

Considering he probably wont play due to a severe elbow injury.....

He hasn't practiced all week.
Posted by nicholastiger
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Posted on 1/9/21 at 8:06 am to
Wagner gets it on reputation

Devin white better than smith
Posted by hiltacular
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Posted on 1/9/21 at 8:35 am to
Kickers are tough but I feel like younghoe koo absolutely was more deserving than Justin Tucker this year. Jason Sanders is more debatable but even that I think is a snub.
This post was edited on 1/9/21 at 8:36 am
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