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re: Is the Drake Maye hot take scale starting to tip too far the other direction?

Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:22 am to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:22 am to
As always context matters if we’re talking his future as potentially one of the elite QBs then a 3 game sample against good defenses in bad weather it would be silly to down grade him.

If we are talking about NE chances to beat Seattle then the fact he hasn’t played well the last 3 games against top defenses given Seattles D is a valid concern
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:23 am to
I liked watching the dude play when he was at UNC. Felt back then he could be one of the next 7-10 year stud QBs in the NFL, but let's face it, sometimes you gotta have a little luck on your side.

He got drafted by the Patriots, who have a very capable head coach (Titans ownership is morons) with organizational structure. Josh McDaniels is his OC. With that in place, he should be handed the proper guidance to work through the current struggles he's having with some of these different looks. Let's also remember he played in a freaking blizzard yesterday.

Imagine if instead he got drafted by the Browns, Raiders or Giants with their current disfunction. The dude probably wouldn't have a chance.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:26 am to
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Let's also remember he played in a freaking blizzard yesterday.


Overstated

He had 6 completions, 5 punts, and 67 TOTAL team yards in the first half with perfect weather

That defense would have stonewalled him in a dome
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 11:27 am
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:27 am to
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Imagine if instead he got drafted by the Browns, Raiders or Giants with their current disfunction. The dude probably wouldn't have a chance.


To be fair here, he was drafted to a team with Jerod Mayo at HC and one of the worst rosters in the league
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:28 am to
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To be fair here, he was drafted to a team with Jerod Mayo at HC and one of the worst rosters in the league
and that team went 4-13

I feel comfortable saying pretty much every QB would be fricked with the jets or browns
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 11:30 am
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:31 am to
Yeah, my point is he didn’t come in with the structure already there. It was a mess when he got there. His ascension is a massive reason why they are where they are at.

If people think Will Campbell is bad, go back and watch the guys they were trotting out last year at tackle he showed promise despite all that and then turned it up to 11 once the pats got a actual coaching staff in place and knocked FA/draft out the park
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:42 am to
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he was drafted to a team with Jerod Mayo at HC and one of the worst rosters in the league


Agree, but Mayo was fired after that one season, and they brought in a head coach who had been successful with Ryan freaking Tannehill, and he's got McDaniels as OC.

Not using that to shite on Maye at all. I've liked watching the dude play since college and felt any NFL team that drafted him would potentially have a legit franchise QB. But it was definitely good fortune for him that he ended up in New England vs what some of the other options could have been.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:55 am to
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Yeah, my point is he didn’t come in with the structure already there


The roster and coach were bad, but the overall organization was in good shape. They have a good young GM who drafted him. Mayo was a mistake that was quickly rectified.

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His ascension is a massive reason why they are where they are at.


Maye playing well was a huge piece along with coaching upgrades and FA especially on D.

Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116171 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:01 pm to
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They have a good young GM who drafted him.


Elliot wolf has been lowkey awful until Vrabel arrived with his front office personnel. Only one player still on the roster outside of Maye from that 2024 class and that player (Caden Wallace) is one of the worst players on the roster.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:20 pm to
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Elliot wolf has been lowkey awful until Vrabel arrived


So one whole year as GM he did draft Maye did he not? Anywoo the organization has been solid since Kraft bought the team, so I do think a guy like Maye is better off being drafted to a franchise like that as opposed to say the Bengals even if the roster overall was bad. Daniels is fortunate that Synder sold the team before being drafted, time will tell but certainly appears the organization will be better run
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116171 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:26 pm to
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So one whole year as GM


Well he’sHe’s been there for a few years, brought on at the end of the BB era, so a little hard to discern which picks were his during that time - also had some pretty rough drafts during that span. 2024 was all him and was pretty much all whiffs outside of Maye. Also gave a few extensions for guys that were quickly shipped out the next year- Kyle Duggar + Devon Godcheaux for example

Hard to give him a ton of credit for sitting and picking a QB 3rd who was projected 3rd.

Not disagreeing with your overall point, I just think the jury is very much still out on Elliot wolf and I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s not there in a season or two. Vrabel has final say on everything at the end of the day now that he’s in tow and has his own guys in the front office like Cowden and Stretch that he’s relied on since Tennessee.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 1:28 pm
Posted by dlc83
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:49 pm to
He's played 3 of the top 5 defenses in the NFL these past three games. Two of them in blizzard conditions.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:54 pm to
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He's played 3 of the top 5 defenses in the NFL these past three games. Two of them in blizzard conditions.

The other teams were playing in those conditions too. Post-season Herbert is awful, CJ looked concussed, and Stidham is Stidham. Maye didn't turn it over yesterday and that was a huge factor in winning but he's not actually having a historical run.
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
4654 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:57 pm to
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Yes he has struggled in this playoffs. 


Has he? He had 102 QB rating against the Texans. Only one other QB had a higher rating against the Texans this season and that was Stafford.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 3:04 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111475 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:11 pm to
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Has he?
Yes

The offense has scored 15 pts per game

His numbers are below. He has struggled. Not saying that is silly

Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116171 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:45 pm to
Didn’t realize ole Barry was still alive. Figured that last Bucs run by Brady killed him
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:50 pm to
Barry is a great follow

Also to the other poster

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This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 4:39 pm
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 7:30 pm to
This is wild and crazy. Rare to see someone stick with their middle school crush. Hats off to them.

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Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 7:43 pm to
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by Usm Tiger


Yep, good post
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:59 pm to
I can admit when I was wrong. Maye legit could be bad
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