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re: Is Nick Saban the luckiest coach ever?

Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:42 am to
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:42 am to
I’m racking my brain and can’t think of the time when bama got in when they shouldn’t have...
Posted by NikolaiJakov
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:44 am to
You should go to the Lee Harvey Oswald thread. Seems you enjoy a good irrational conspiracy.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:45 am to
2011 and 2017 easily.
Posted by NikolaiJakov
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:46 am to
Bowden is underrated. Joe Pa was not. He is rated right where he needs to be. A good coach who had a long career, but had his image tarnished because he allowed a child predator access to hundreds of kids right under his nose because they were friends.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:47 am to
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Teams that beat the Super Bowl Champion in the regular season don't bitch and moan because they had to beat them when it counted and couldn't. Only LSU does that.
. Definitely the same thing. Let me know the next time the Superbowl has teams from the same division of the same conference.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:48 am to
‘011 they were clearly better than Oklahoma state. Clearly. That’s utterly laughable. I want the best two teams in the title. LSU and bama were the best two regardless of who won the first matchup. Had LSU lost the first game they woulda went in over okie state.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 11:49 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:49 am to
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‘011 they were clearly better than Oklahoma state. Clearly.


False.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:50 am to
Well we had one of the best teams of all time and got waxed. So it is safe to say bama would beat them by 3 tds.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:52 am to
The result of that game doesn't change the resumes. If it was Arkansas and not Bama in the discussion, Okie State goes to the championship game.
Posted by NikolaiJakov
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:55 am to
Remind me again who are the 2011 national champions?

Why? Because they won when it counted.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:58 am to
Who has said y'all didn't get the trophy?
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:58 am to
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Why are we giving do-over games and SECCG bye weeks to divisional runner-ups who lose to vastly inferior teams at home?


We aren't, Alabama wasn't a "vastly superior" team to LSU that year, but it was very evident that they were the better football team, and a lot of people across the country felt that way after the first game.

The competition for that spot that year did lose to a vastly inferior team, which is why they didn't get in.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:59 am to
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The competition for that spot that year did lose to a vastly inferior team, which is why they didn't get in.


Yea, forget their much better wins.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:08 pm to
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Yea, forget their much better wins


what were those? Bama's best win in the regular season that year was against Arkansas by 3 touchdowns, who finished ranked #5. They beat a top 25 Penn State team on the road that was 9-3 on selection day.

OSU had 3 top 25 wins to Alabama's 2 on selection day. Their best being a win at home over #13 Baylor against Alabama's win over Arkansas. So yea, when it's that close, and Alabama had the best win of the two, a loss to a putrid Iowa State team is going to carry some weight. Y'all have some revisionists history over that season. Oklahoma State won their conference, but they didn't play in a conference championship game either. The big 12 pushed their regular season finale back a week to give it that impression, but it's not like alabama got to sit at home while OSU had to go play in a conference championship game. That didn't happen

This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 12:10 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:09 pm to
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what were those?

no point in trying to convince you.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:09 pm to
That's a lot of words to just say "muh best loss."

Not sure how one loss to Iowa State reduces OSUs top 25 wins to 2.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:13 pm to
On selection day alabama had wins over #7 and #24 with a loss to #1 LSU in overtime

OSU had wins over #11, 15, and 19 with a loss to unranked ISU in overtime

In no world is the latter a better resume.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:16 pm to
So 3 top 20 wins vs 1.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:18 pm to
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Not sure how one loss to Iowa State reduces OSUs top 25 wins to 2.




I didn't say it did, they had 3 top 25 wins and Bama had 2. Point to OSU

Their best win was #11, Bama's was #7. Point to bama

They lost to an unranked team. I repeat, they lost to an unranked team. A bad one. One that finished 6-7. Bama lost to the #1 team. Again, point to bama.

Bama didn't get in because they had "the better loss"

They had the much better loss, and beat two top 25 teams to OSU's 3, including the highest ranked of the 5.

Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:19 pm to
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top 20


because top 20 has always been where the polls cut off

21-0 happened buddy. I'm sorry it still haunts y'all to this day. Maybe y'all can exorcise those demons and get yourselves your own shiny trophy next month
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