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Is Luka basically a better rebounding version of Harden?
Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:32 pm
I mean, their offensive juggernauts at their peak but always a black hole for the defense.
Harden’s teams never won a title, and Luka could be the same. Both are/were not in the best shape at their peak, and neither seemed to care about improving that.
Only difference I see is Luka doesn’t completely shrink in big playoff games like Harden did.
Still, both are limited by their effort on the other side and it hurts their teams significantly.
Harden’s teams never won a title, and Luka could be the same. Both are/were not in the best shape at their peak, and neither seemed to care about improving that.
Only difference I see is Luka doesn’t completely shrink in big playoff games like Harden did.
Still, both are limited by their effort on the other side and it hurts their teams significantly.
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:37 pm to Geauxgurt
I didn’t read all that, but when I see subject lines like this it just blows my mind….I mean, what are you guys seeing? Harden is 58, Luka is just 25 for starters. Luka averaged 34/9/9 last year and made it to The Finals…..Harden?? What??
Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:38 pm to Geauxgurt
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Harden’s teams never won a title
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Only difference I see is Luka doesn’t completely shrink in big playoff games like Harden did.
There you go. I’m not a harden guy, but he could and probably should have a ring or two.
Even if your premise is true, which is certainly debatable, you don’t trade a 25 year old elite scorer for a 32 year old center with a LONG injury history without even shopping him.
This is one of the most insane trades in the history of sports
Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:44 pm to Geauxgurt
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Both are/were not in the best shape at their peak, and neither seemed to care about improving that.
What? Harden has always been jacked. He makes Luka is a little fatass. At worst Harden might have had a little gut in the offseason.
And Harden would probably have a ring or two if his prime didn’t exist at the same time the Warriors dynasty was at its peak. And he still gave them all they could handle, and honestly should have taken them out if CP3 doesn’t get injured.
This post was edited on 2/2/25 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:49 pm to PrimeTime Money
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What? Harden has always been jacked. He makes Luka is a little fatass. At worst Harden might have had a little gut in the offseason.
I mean at his peak? Sure. But at the end of his Houston tenure and moving onto other teams, he always carried heavy weight.
My comparison is each at their prime, not Harden now. For Harden Prime, I am looking at the latter years in HTown.
Again, Luka is an amazing players, but I don’t think we have seen as big of a superstar be so bad at defense, especially since defense is heavily about effort. When Hardeb actually put effort on defense, he was decent to good. I don’t see that with Luka yet.
Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:56 pm to Geauxgurt
quote:He was always in shape with Houston. He briefly appeared pudgy when he was trying to force his way out. And even then it was mostly an unflattering photo that blew up making him look way bigger than he actually was.
But at the end of his Houston tenure and moving onto other teams, he always carried heavy weight.
My comparison is each at their prime, not Harden now. For Harden Prime, I am looking at the latter years in HTown.
And he’s been in shape even after Houston.
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:57 pm to Geauxgurt
Luka is 100x better than harden ever was..
Posted on 2/2/25 at 4:06 pm to Geauxgurt
Luka being terrible at defense is over hyped. Is he a top tier, lock down 1 on 1 defender? No not at all. But his defense made Dallas better when healthy. He plays passing lanes well, rebounds well. He can give you 35/10/10 on any given night and damn near averaged that last year. That's worth getting blown by a few times per night in 1 on 1 situations.
Posted on 2/2/25 at 4:11 pm to Geauxgurt
Luka is a European version of Zion
When healthy he’s a top 3 generational
But like Zion he lacks the drive and discipline to be truly great and thus is out of shape and injured a lot
Like many Europeans not being as obese and out of shape as Americans, Luka stays slightly healthier but neither will ever amount to anything as a nba player unless they grow up and develop leadership skills
When healthy he’s a top 3 generational
But like Zion he lacks the drive and discipline to be truly great and thus is out of shape and injured a lot
Like many Europeans not being as obese and out of shape as Americans, Luka stays slightly healthier but neither will ever amount to anything as a nba player unless they grow up and develop leadership skills
Posted on 2/2/25 at 4:32 pm to Nathan Drake
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Luka is a European version of Zion When healthy he’s a top 3 generational But like Zion he lacks the drive and discipline to be truly great and thus is out of shape and injured a lot
There’s no way this is a serious post
Posted on 2/2/25 at 4:33 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:there’s a reason why he was dumped for peanuts
There’s no way this is a serious post
Posted on 2/2/25 at 4:34 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:unless you disagree that he’s a top 3 generational talent when healthy then not sure how it isn’t anything but serious
no way this is a serious post
Posted on 2/2/25 at 4:36 pm to Nathan Drake
Luka led the 2024 playoffs in points, assists, rebounds, steals, and minutes played, yet is being compared to Zion 
Posted on 2/2/25 at 4:38 pm to Stan Switek
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Luka led the 2024 playoffs in points, assists, rebounds, steals, and minutes played, yet is being compared to Zion
Who’s never played, including his year at Duke. And even when they’re both healthy Luka is twice the player.
I swear some of yall don’t actually watch the games
Posted on 2/2/25 at 5:08 pm to Stan Switek
quote:extremely talented guys who lack discipline and are not living to film potential
yet is being compared to Zion
Comparable in that regard
Posted on 2/2/25 at 5:10 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:the people who brag about not watching the nba for years are the ones saying shite like “Luka is the best player the Mavs have ever had”
swear some of yall don’t actually watch the games
From a natural ability standpoint he’s amazing but lacks the leadership skills and drive to be truly great
Posted on 2/2/25 at 5:12 pm to Stan Switek
quote:talented stat padder who doesn’t have the leadership skills to win anything of true meaning
Luka led the 2024 playoffs in points, assists, rebounds, steals, and minutes played
Posted on 2/2/25 at 5:13 pm to Nathan Drake
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From a natural ability standpoint he’s amazing but lacks the leadership skills and drive to be truly great
So you ship him off for Anthony fricking Davis
Posted on 2/2/25 at 5:23 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:I’m not the gm of Dallas
So you ship him off for Anthony fricking Davis
Nor do I think it was a good move
I do understand not committing to a non-committed athlete but Dallas did a poor job dumping him off unless there’s more o the story
Posted on 2/2/25 at 5:24 pm to Geauxgurt
Luka doesn’t win nearly as much
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