re: Is Kobe Bryant a Top 10 All Time Great Player

Kobe is Top 10

Probably Top 5

Bryant holds or shares numerous NBA records:

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Most All-Star Game MVP awards won, career: 4 (tied with Bob Pettit)
Most All-Star Game points scored, career: 271[34]
Most All-Star Game field goals made, career: 111
Most offensive rebounds in an All-Star Game: 10
Most All-NBA Total Selections won, career: 15 (tied with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar)
Most All-NBA First Team honors won, career: 11 (tied with Karl Malone)
Most All-Defensive First Team honors won, career: 9 (tied with Michael Jordan, Gary Payton, and Kevin Garnett)
Most three-point field goals made, one game: 12 (on January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics; shared with Donyell Marshall)[35]
Most three-point field goal attempts, career-playoffs: 882[36]
Most field goal attempts, career-playoffs: 4,499
Most three-point field goal attempts, career-finals: 153
Most free throws made, four-game playoff series: 51 (second round vs. Sacramento Kings, 2001)[37]
Most points scored in one arena, career: 13,812 (as of March 9, 2012, at Staples Center, Los Angeles)[38][39]
Surpassed Hakeem Olajuwon, the previous holder of the record[39]
Youngest player to score 22,000 points: (30 years, 99 days)[40]
Surpassed Wilt Chamberlain, the previous holder of the record[40]
Youngest player to score 23,000 points: (30 years, 171 days)[41]
Surpassed Wilt Chamberlain, the previous holder of the record[41]
Youngest player to score 24,000 points: (31 years, 76 days)[42]
Surpassed Wilt Chamberlain, the previous holder of the record[42]
Youngest player to score 25,000 points: (31 years, 151 days)[43]
Surpassed Wilt Chamberlain, the previous holder of the record[43]
Youngest player to score 26,000 points: (32 years, 80 days)[44]
Surpassed Wilt Chamberlain, the previous holder of the record
Youngest player to score 27,000 points: (32 years, 160 days)[45]
Surpassed Wilt Chamberlain, the previous holder of the record
Youngest player to score 28,000 points: (33 years, 131 days)[46][47]
Surpassed Wilt Chamberlain, the previous holder of the record
Youngest player to score 29,000 points: (33 years, 199 days)[48]
Surpassed Wilt Chamberlain, the previous holder of the record
Youngest player to score 30,000 points: (34 years, 104 days)[49]
Surpassed Wilt Chamberlain, the previous holder of the record
Youngest player to score 31,000 points: (34 years, 185 days)[50]
Surpassed Wilt Chamberlain, the previous holder of the record
Youngest player to be named to the NBA All-Rookie Team: (1996–97)[51]
Youngest player to be named to the NBA All-Defensive Team: (1999–00)[51]
Youngest player to start a game: (18 years, 158 days)[1]
Youngest player to start an All-Star game[51]
Youngest player to win the NBA Slam Dunk Championship: (18 years, 169 days)[52]
Only player in NBA history to score at least 600 points in the postseason for three consecutive years.[53]
633 (2008), 695 (2009), 671 (2010)

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PaPow

You are a complete loon.

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Grant Hill was pretty much as good of a player pre-injury as LeBron is now

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Wait... You're actually being serious?

Kobe isn't even 35 yet, yet he's already played 1,459 NBA games. That's equivalent to roughly 16 full NBA seasons. He made his NBA Debut in November of 1996. If he plays a game in November of 2014, that will mean that he has spent literally half his life as an NBA player. Think about that. This dude has been in the NBA so long that Brandy was a big time musician when he took her to his high school prom and now no one even knows who she is.

If Kareem isn't top 10 you are a retard.

If Kareem isn't top 5, you are a child.

Kareem is the Goat CBB player of all-time, probably high school and hard to argue against -top 5 NBA let alone top 10.

Kobe is anywhere from as high as 8 or down to 15 depending on your fanboy status...but he isn't top 5...no way.

On 45% shooting and a sub 1.5 assist to TO ratio

Kobe was, and still is, a hell of a basketball player and has sustained the incredible play for such a long period of time, but his peak wasn't dominant enough for top 5 of all-time IMO.

Who gives a shite about Assist to turnover ratio? People associate assists with quality passing way too much. You can be a great passer and not get a lot of assists and you can be a mediocre passer and accumulate a lot of assists.

You want another reason why assists don't matter? You have no control over whether your teammate takes or makes the shot. That'd be like trying to measure a baseball player's hitting ability based on how many times he is driven in for a run after he gets on base. He has literally no control over that.

And to completely bury your asinine attempt at a point, who the frick would pass to Smush Parker, Chris Mihm, Kwame Brown, and Luke Walton? I sure as hell wouldn't.