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Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:03 pm to Srbtiger06
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I am a Yankees and a HUGE Jeter fan and even I think this is fricking stupid.
OK. If you were starting a team, JETER or Iciro, 1st pick. WHO YA GOT!!!
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:04 pm to dukke v
would this team want to compete in two years?
Also, I'd take Jeter all day long there, but what does that prove?
Also, I'd take Jeter all day long there, but what does that prove?
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:07 pm to LfcSU3520
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which as has been stated in this thread, he doesn't do all that well
REALLY??????/ He DOESN'T GET ON BASE???????/ YOU ARE THE STUPID frick HERE!!!!
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Jesus man your arguments are just terrible
Prove me wrong MR. PITCHER!!!!!!
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:08 pm to dukke v
the other guy did just a minute ago actually. In terms of elite OBP (you know, the thing that measures your claim)...he's not all that great. He is however good at getting on base by hitting singles.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:09 pm to LfcSU3520
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Also, I'd take Jeter all day long there, but what does that prove?
Ichiro is NOT overated. BUT Some on here think he is. Carew was overated??? His job was to get on base for others to knock him in.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:09 pm to dukke v
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OK. If you were starting a team, JETER or Iciro, 1st pick. WHO YA GOT!!!
Right now? Ichiro. If we are talking about in their primes then Jeter.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:09 pm to LfcSU3520
I saw a clip one time where several MLB players said that if Ichiro entered the home run derby, he'd win it running away.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:10 pm to LfcSU3520
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He is however good at getting on base by hitting singles.
And then stealing bases. Its not his fault the team around him sucks.Think about it smart boy.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:11 pm to reddman
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I saw a clip one time where several MLB players said that if Ichiro entered the home run derby, he'd win it running away.
i don't doubt it. It's really impressive.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:14 pm to dukke v
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OK. If you were starting a team, JETER or Iciro, 1st pick. WHO YA GOT!!!
Jetes if it is JUST those two...but there are PLENTY of other guys in the league.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:16 pm to LfcSU3520
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In terms of elite OBP (you know, the thing that measures your claim)...he's not all that great.
Exactly, he's been top 20 once since 2005 ( I THINK).
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He is however good at getting on base by hitting singles.
Winner.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:16 pm to dukke v
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And then stealing bases. Its not his fault the team around him sucks.Think about it smart boy.
WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING I SAID??
all I said was GETTING ON BASE. Not stealing, not being driven in...just GETTING ON BASE.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:16 pm to dukke v
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I'd take Jeter all day long there, but what does that prove?
Ichiro is NOT overated
How in the frick would picking Jeter prove Ichiro isn't overrated?
Would you say Ichiro is one of the top 10 all around hitters in baseball?
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:38 pm to 1ranter1
I personally don't think Ichiro is an overrated hitter.
But there is definitely a case you could make there. And as the blog points out, the guy making the argument did a horrible job of making a case, because none of his points are relevant to Ichiro's actual ability to hit.
But there is definitely a case you could make there. And as the blog points out, the guy making the argument did a horrible job of making a case, because none of his points are relevant to Ichiro's actual ability to hit.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 9:53 pm to OBUDan
Ichiro's career is very similiar to Jackie Robinsons. Both spent a ton of their prime years in leagues other than the MLB. And both played a style of ball that hadnt been seen in the MLB for a while.
And Ichiro, like Robinson, when its all said in done will be considered one of the top 100 players of all timo imo.
And Ichiro, like Robinson, when its all said in done will be considered one of the top 100 players of all timo imo.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 10:28 pm to 1ranter1
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Despite his great averages, he has only had an OPB over .400 once in his career. He has never had a SLG over .470.
Yet, he's probably considered one of the greatest hitters of all time. For some perspective, at age 40 in 2004, Barry Bonds had an OBP of .609. And slugged .812.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 10:40 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Ichiro's career is very similiar to Jackie Robinsons
Not even close. Jackie Robinson drew a ton of walks and could hit for power as well. Robinson also played second base where the standards for hitting is a lot lower than a corner OF.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 10:45 pm to Bench McElroy
Stop badmouthing Ichiro
Posted on 5/24/10 at 10:50 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Ichiro's career is very similiar to Jackie Robinsons. Both spent a ton of their prime years in leagues other than the MLB. And both played a style of ball that hadnt been seen in the MLB for a while.
And Ichiro, like Robinson, when its all said in done will be considered one of the top 100 players of all timo imo.
LO fricking L
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