re: Is Daryl Morey losing his mind?

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It is more honorable to give your all and come up short on a no title non super team then it is to live on your knees by resorting to a super team in order to get your title

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Thats all well and good and I agree with your premise: had he won an NBA title with that shite sandwich of a squad it likely would've been considered one of the greatest accomplishments of all-time. However, we have to take context into account with The Decision: he was an unrestricted free agent, the Boston Big 4 was obstructing the entire East's path to the Finals and would still be viable another 2-3 years, and he wanted to win a title within that context and Gilbert was doing squat to facilitate that (he wasn't LeGM then), I can't blame him for wanting to win a chip and, at the time, thought it was the coolest thing ever constructing that team. I mean IDC who you are, 8 straight Finals appearances and championships with 2 separate franchises aint anything to sneeze at hell its probably one of the greatest achievements in team sports, the guy's a winner whether you want to admit it or not, you gotta respect that. It goes both ways here like it does basically everything else in life.

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There’s many players who woulda gone to 8 straight finals if you put them on the heat super teams and then the squads he had in Cleveland considering the lack of competition in the lowly east the last decade.

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What's your opinion about Magic Johnson and his 9 Finals appearances with that Laker superteam?

Yep. Built a squad with only one all star who won 65 and damn near took out GOAT. We are talking a 70 win team easy with good health with only one all star. Idk if that’s more of a endorsement for harden or morey but wow we are lucky to have both of them in the league.

not really. The 10-12th place teams that usually DONT tank but were last year don’t beat a team as good as CC if they were tanking or not tanking. Those 10-12th place teams pick up their extra wins mostly against your 4-9 seeds if not tanking. So it is the pels, Nuggets, okcs, etx etx of the league who had the Inflated win totals moreso than CC.

That’s not what Pythagorean win expectation means...


By the way, Daryl Morey brought a modified version of the Pythagorean win expectation formula to basketball, and that’s what this formula is here:

It’s how many games you expected to win based on your net rating. a team with a lower net rating ie your pels, okcs, etc were expected to win low 40 games. But Bc of the tankers this year they won more. I was a math major I have a good grip on all these stats so you can trust that I’m not mis using them bubba.

Of course. Teams with lower net ratings lose to teams at the bottom of the standings at a higher rate than those squads w higher net ratings. Ie pels record was inflated by the tankers more than CC.

yea but a great team like CC would have loss less than one win by my calculations. Whereas pels and the other teams bunched up there at 45-48 wins woulda had more like 4-5 wins less by my calculation.

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It’s how many games you expected to win based on your net rating. a team with a lower net rating ie your pels, okcs,

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And yet when OKC's net rating yielded more pythag wins, you weren't having that argument.

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