Absolutely.

But again, I'm comparing him to like guys in similar positions. Other 3rd options with multiple HOFers still got in with comparable, or inferior production.

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An over emphasis of even the best stat, is still an over emphasis. Stats are one important measure, but not the exclusive measure of a player.

Again, not stats, production. There can be no overemphasis on producton/efficiency. That is really the end all be all IMO.

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Or that fact that you could replace him with probably 10-15 other similar guys in the league right now and Miami would be as good or better?

I don't know that it's 10-15, but fair enough. And those guys like Worthy I compare him to, the exact same thing could be said about them being replaced by 10-15 guys. That's my main point here.

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Posted by lob1284

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Posted on 5/27/11 at 6:35 pm to WDE24

he's been to 6 all star games already and he's only 27 years old. KG gives him problems, but he's also a 1st ballot HOFer and isn't going to be around much longer. consider that, and dwight howard is likely to be making a move west, and his road to several more all-star games in addition to putting up great numbers isn't getting any tougher.

he's averaged 20 pts, over 9 boards, and has been a great FT shooter for his career. this year his numbers have been slightly down from his career average, but it should have been expected that his transition would be the hardest of the big 3 since he has the least control over what shots he gets.

watching the eastern conference finals, that was clearly the most comfortable he's been on that team since the beginning of the season. he had his way with noah at times, who's one of the best defensive bigs in the league. he was consistently the 2nd best player for the heat in their most important series up to this point, better than wade.

i'm attempting to look at this objectively. not a bosh fan. i just see a guy who realistically could end up a 10 time all star, 20/10 guy with multiple championships. to say that resume has "no shot" at HOF seems off. remember dennis rodman just got in.

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Posted by WDE24

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Posted on 5/27/11 at 6:40 pm to lob1284

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dwight howard is likely to be making a move west,

You shut your whore mouth.

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Posted by shel311

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Posted on 5/27/11 at 6:52 pm to lob1284

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i'm attempting to look at this objectively. not a bosh fan. i just see a guy who realistically could end up a 10 time all star, 20/10 guy with multiple championships. to say that resume has "no shot" at HOF seems off.

Exaaaaactly.

Not sure how this can be objectively refuted so matter of factly.

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Posted by LSU82BILL

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Posted on 5/27/11 at 7:09 pm to shel311

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Bosh may get to the hall.. but only due to his teammates..

That's bullshite! HOF voting is statistic and award driven. When Bosh joined Wade and LeBron, he went from being Toronto's perennial top scorer to a 3rd scoring option and his numbers will suffer. He was also a shoo in for the All Star team to represent Toronto every year. That won't be so easy in the future as the 3rd best player on the Heat. So his teammates are actually hindering his HOF chances.

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Posted by ZTiger87

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Posted on 5/27/11 at 7:24 pm to WDE24

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Is Zach Randolph a HOF? Elton Brand? Amare Stoudemire (more of HOF than Bosh BTW)? What if they joined the Heat or Lakers and won a couple of titles?

Is Pau Gasol a HOFer? If not, isn't he a lot closer because he joined the Lakers and won? Winning changes things.

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