re: Is Cam Newton the Most Overated Player in the League Right Now?

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I've yet to see one person in this thread who thinks Cam should even be an MVP candidate post a reason why.

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Like Carolina being 7-0? Or the offense being ranked 4th in PPG with 27.3 with a VERY limited supporting cast?

Coming into 2015, Carolina had one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL (22nd in the NFL)(a lot of which to due with Cam Newton's off-season ankle surgery and broken back from a car accident). The only offensive weapons to speak of were Jonathan Stewart, Greg Olsen and Kelvin Benjamin...and Kelvin Benjamin is out with a torn ACL. Cam Newton has elevated the entire performance of the offense. The misdirection, read-option play calls are opending up holes due to the threat of Cam Newton running. He's leading touchdown drives through the air with only Teddy Ginn Jr, Greg Olsen, Philly Brown and Jericho Cotchery. He escapes pressure that reflects well on the offensive line because he is hard to sack. He strings together game winning drives like against the Seattle Seahawks in Seattle.

Need to hear more?

But yeah, let's talk about stats and compare him to Colin Kaepernick even though Cam Newton has doubled his touchdown, has his team 7-0, and has played one less game.

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Or the offense being ranked 4th in PPG with 27.3

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This is pretty impressive considering Carolina is in the bottom half in total offense.

That may be because the defense is giving them short fields but I'm not sure.

Can someone pull up their Redzone Efficiency numbers?

Carolinas record has no bearing because Cam isn't the biggest reason for the change. They are running the ball a lot better this year first of all. That isn't because of Cam passing the ball either because no one is afraid of that. The Colts were daring Cam to the throw the ball all game. And in the end he did win, which I've stated earlier in this thread he is clutch. The game winning drive against Seattle lol? He was AWFUL that entire game and Greg Olsen sprints 20 yards behind the Seattle defense. Any NFL quarterback makes that throw. Any. Newtons completion percentage is 54%, he's been sacked more times than Eli Manning even though he's apparent breaking off sacks left and right according to you, he has less passing yards than Brain Hoyer, Bortles, Carr and Bridgewater. He's turned the ball over more than Kaepernick, Fitzpatrick, and Jameis Winston. But yeah man he runs for 600 yards a year lets crown him. Without Can at QB that team could still be 7-0. No way he should be anywhere close to an MVP candidate with those numbers.

Among qualified passers

32nd in completion % (54.2%)
28th yrds/game
22nd in yards/attempt
14th in TDs (1 less game)
6th most ints (1 less game)
29th in Rating

His running isn't enough to overcome all that and throw him into mvp discussion

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he is never going to lead an explosive offense

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Carolina was 7th in total offense in Cam's rookie year when they had a competent receiving corps and a more aggressive offensive system. He is capable of putting up bigger numbers in a spread-oriented scheme like Chudzinski ran. The defense was the weakness of the team back then though, so the front office emphasized that side of the ball during the draft and it paid off.

The improved defense, heavy investment in the backfield, and lack of playmaking WR's due to injury/free agency combined to necessitate a more conservative offensive style of play. This is the way the Panthers have built their team, and it is an effective system. I do think they need to make a move for another WR this season though.

I've said I think he's a great player. Hell, he scares the hell out of me

Yeah his talent around him isn't great. But The great quarterbacks makes wide receivers. Look what Brady is doing to Edelman, almost any other team doesn't get 50% of the production Brady gets out of Edelman. I know Brady might be th GOAT but you get the point. The great ones get it done with who they have. Cam is a good player who is exciting to watch but there is no way he should be considered for MVP.

Have you watched him play this year? I understand what his stats look like and I don't think he is a legit MVP candidate, but to say he is the most overrated guy is kind of BS.

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They are running the ball a lot better this year first of all.

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You don't know how the read-option works, do you?

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The Colts were daring Cam to the throw the ball all game

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No shite, it was pouring.

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The game winning drive against Seattle lol? He was AWFUL that entire game and Greg Olsen sprints 20 yards behind the Seattle defense. Any NFL quarterback makes that throw. Any

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Did he lead the game winning drive or not? Remind me. I forgot that Seattle is the only team in the history of the NFL to blow a coverage.

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he's been sacked more times than Eli Manning even though he's apparent breaking off sacks left and right according to you

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You don't watch Carolina unless they're playing Atlanta, do you?

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Without Can at QB that team could still be 7-0.

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Coulda, shoulda, woulda. I like this game.

With more talent surrounding Cam Newton on offense, Carolina could be ranked #1 in scoring offense and be blowing opponents out.

At least 4 of his INT's have been tipped balls by his WR's and one was a strip after his receiver took 4 steps last week. I don't know how that wasn't ruled a fumble if it was even a turnover at all. Either way, it isn't completely fair to place all of the blame on Cam for the high INT rate because his receivers aren't helping him very much.