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Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:12 am to genro
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But I definitely know more about Incognito's mental health than you do.
No rational person thinks bullying is good. I'm not gonna defend bullying. Bullying is bad.
It just seems like you're ignoring certain things so you can use this to fit your anti-bullying agenda.
I am merely stating I have researched more into Incognito's past than probably a vast majority of this board.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:15 am to CharlesLSU
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Ricky is a highly agitated individual and the NFL is actually more geared for that versus tender feelings.
What do you base this on?
The fact that he was admitted to a Behavioral/Psychological Institute in Topeka, Kansas while at Nebraska?
Definitely backs your agitation prognosis.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:16 am to A2
quote:You just told us how deeply you've researched Incognito's behavior issues, there was no need to make this post which was solely to flex your Incognito behavioral issue knowledge.
What do you base this on?
The fact that he was admitted to a Behavioral/Psychological Institute in Topeka, Kansas while at Nebraska?
Definitely backs your agitation prognosis
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:17 am to St Augustine
I like how the "$15,000 bullying extortion" has disappeared from the narrative since it was reported that JMart committed to the Vegas trip and then backed out after all the money had been prepaid. Oops, doesn't fit the narrative.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:17 am to shel311
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What do you base this on?
The fact that he was admitted to a Behavioral/Psychological Institute in Topeka, Kansas while at Nebraska?
Definitely backs your agitation prognosis
You just told us how deeply you've researched Incognito's behavior issues, there was no need to make this post which was solely to flex your Incognito behavioral issue knowledge.
Yeah, but you are willing to listen!!! Others just have all the answers already.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:18 am to A2
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Deflection on your part from linking a contrary quote.
What?
Are you even reading what is being posted? I've stated that teaching a child conflict strategies and how to stand up to bullying is positive and best handled by the parents. This school program backfire study potentially shows how misguided this bleeding heart crap can be.
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Again, I agree with your opinion somewhat. But "conflict resolution" does not need to be punching someone else. More studies prove that than to the contrary.
Care to show where I advocated punching someone?
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I never said it would. But to look at the development of a species over a long period of time for survival does not justify bullying in the present.
Bullying has been here as long as we have in some form or other. As long as there are humans, there will be bullying.
This post was edited on 11/7/13 at 11:19 am
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:19 am to tigerpimpbot
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I like how the "$15,000 bullying extortion" has disappeared from the narrative since it was reported that JMart committed to the Vegas trip and then backed out after all the money had been prepaid. Oops, doesn't fit the narrative.
This has already been discussed. You are just late to the party.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:21 am to tigerpimpbot
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I like how the "$15,000 bullying extortion" has disappeared from the narrative since it was reported that JMart committed to the Vegas trip and then backed out after all the money had been prepaid. Oops, doesn't fit the narrative
would you expect it to stay in the narrative after it got debunked?
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:24 am to NoSaint
Pretty irresponsible narrative in the first place.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:27 am to St Augustine
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Pretty irresponsible narrative in the first place.
who knows where it came from, and at this point who knows if its even been debunked really - we have one guy that wasnt even on the team that disputed it. if its totally incorrect and was totally unverified, then yes, i agree it was irresponsible to run with by the media.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:27 am to St Augustine
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Deflection on your part from linking a contrary quote.
What?
Are you even reading what is being posted? I've stated that teaching a child conflict strategies and how to stand up to bullying is positive and best handled by the parents. This school program backfire study potentially shows how misguided this bleeding heart crap can be.
It says nothing in your link about parental involvement. Again deflection.
"Released in September by the University of Texas in Arlington, the study found that unintended consequences may result from campaigns designed to educate students about the harms of physical and emotional harassment. According to researchers' findings, bullying prevention programs in schools generally increase incidences of physical and emotional attacks among students by teaching kids about the ins and outs of bulling.
The study’s findings challenge commonly held beliefs about the benefits of bullying prevention programs."
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I never said it would. But to look at the development of a species over a long period of time for survival does not justify bullying in the present.
Bullying has been here as long as we have in some form or other. As long as there are humans, there will be bullying.
Again, this is an evolutionary issue to ensure the survival of a species. Not a sociopath with mental and emotional issues acting out as such.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:28 am to NoSaint
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I like how the "$15,000 bullying extortion" has disappeared from the narrative since it was reported that JMart committed to the Vegas trip and then backed out after all the money had been prepaid. Oops, doesn't fit the narrative
would you expect it to stay in the narrative after it got debunked?
Debunked how?
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:32 am to A2
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Debunked how?
i guess it hasnt even, really, but the story seems to have evolved into he agreed to go and backed out so he still paid his share.
who knows if that is any more true than the original though - but i guess instead of debunked, perhaps called into question would have been much better phrasing.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:35 am to A2
I think your disconnect is you thinking all of my links were going to support parental involvement when I was simply giving you a list of varying studies that were relevant to different parts of this thread. I'm not deflecting anything.
So they didn't have sociopaths throughout history? How were loudmouth aggressive people handled 5 years ago? 50? 500?
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Again, this is an evolutionary issue to ensure the survival of a species. Not a sociopath with mental and emotional issues acting out as such.
So they didn't have sociopaths throughout history? How were loudmouth aggressive people handled 5 years ago? 50? 500?
This post was edited on 11/7/13 at 11:37 am
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:39 am to St Augustine
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Again, I agree with your opinion somewhat. But "conflict resolution" does not need to be punching someone else. More studies prove that than to the contrary.
Care to show where I advocated punching someone?
"I still don't understand how if it's a one on one thing you just don't tell the one guy to go frick himself when it goes to far... Especially when you are his physical equal."
Care to explain what you meant by this statement?
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:41 am to NoSaint
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Debunked how?
i guess it hasnt even, really, but the story seems to have evolved into he agreed to go and backed out so he still paid his share.
who knows if that is any more true than the original though - but i guess instead of debunked, perhaps called into question would have been much better phrasing.
I believe that multiple angles have been called into question.
But a former teammates of Incognito at Nebraska and the Dolphins does have a dog in the fight.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:44 am to A2
Sure. If it's two guys who are essentially peers and one makes a demand that the other does not agree to, you tell the guy to frick off and be done with it. If it's simply a conflict of two relative equals, it's highly unlikely the one demanding is going to be able to really do anything about it. In a vacuum it ends there. It is pretty apparent that the there were more people involved and some power/trust instilled in incognito by the organization. You're reaching pretty far to attempt to find me advocating violence in your mind. Since this statement was made we've learned about Ireland, other teammates taking up for incognito, Martin backing out if trip, etc. It's all still hearsay.
This post was edited on 11/7/13 at 11:47 am
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:48 am to St Augustine
Has any current/former teammate publicly or even anonymously voiced support for Martin?
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