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re: In case you still think the Mavs aren't soft
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:11 pm to xiv
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:11 pm to xiv
As much as I like watching Dirk there is a pretty glaring hole in his rebounding.
Post 98-99 Lockout (the year Dirk broke into the league) Dirk is 4th overall with 20 pt 10 rebound games.
1 Tim Duncan 416
2 Kevin Garnett 403
3 Shaq 329
4 Dirk 293
5 C-Webb 223
(Dwight Howard has 210 for those interested)
Anyway, if dig deeper and look at the 20-10 games with 1 or less Offensive rebound
1 Dirk 145
2 KG 77
3 Paul Pierce 45
4 Lebron 42
In almost half of Dirks 20/10 games does not do work on the offensive glass.
Post 98-99 Lockout (the year Dirk broke into the league) Dirk is 4th overall with 20 pt 10 rebound games.
1 Tim Duncan 416
2 Kevin Garnett 403
3 Shaq 329
4 Dirk 293
5 C-Webb 223
(Dwight Howard has 210 for those interested)
Anyway, if dig deeper and look at the 20-10 games with 1 or less Offensive rebound
1 Dirk 145
2 KG 77
3 Paul Pierce 45
4 Lebron 42
In almost half of Dirks 20/10 games does not do work on the offensive glass.
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:13 pm to MrBossHogg
He's almost always been a mid-post/perimeter player. It shouldn't surprise anyone that he's a sub-par offensive rebounder. Conversely, his defensive rebounding has always been above average.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:15 pm to MrBossHogg
I dont really see this entire post as a negative thing! 4th in 20/10 games is pretty solid.
He's a shooter and wouldnt be in position for as many offensive boards but appears to make it up on the defensive end.
Splitting hairs.
He's a shooter and wouldnt be in position for as many offensive boards but appears to make it up on the defensive end.
quote:
As much as I like watching Dirk there is a pretty glaring hole in his rebounding.
Splitting hairs.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:19 pm to ocelot4ark
quote:
He's almost always been a mid-post/perimeter player. It shouldn't surprise anyone that he's a sub-par offensive rebounder.
This. I don't know why people are surprised that a guy that is always out around the 3 point line doesn't get a lot of offensive rebounds.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:33 pm to MrBossHogg
quote:
MrBossHogg
Your post just proved that this whole thread topic is full of fail. How can the man who is fourth in 20/10 games over the last 12 seasons be considered an awful, soft rebounder?
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:43 pm to BayouBengals03
quote:When they're not your team (Hornets for me), literally anything is a reason not to cheer for them. You sound like a moron on this issue.
So that's a reason not to cheer for them?
quote:They're about to sweep a team who has a larger market and a larger payroll. You sound like a moron on this issue.
What's the fun in them winning in their first year together, with no real adversity?
quote:There was plenty of drama in the 1990's, though six times you knew deep down who was going to win the title. You sound like a moron on this issue.
As a fan, I'd rather there still be some drama in the next few years as to who is going to win the title.
quote:The Mavs would if they could find some 7-footers who knew how to crash the boards and play defense once in a while.
But if they don't, who is going to beat this core on the Heat as they just get a better supporting cast around them?
But nice fadeaway, Dirk. Real nice.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:47 pm to MrBossHogg
quote:I love watching him, too. There are few things more entertaining than watching him make the impossible shots he makes. But it's the only thing at which he excels, and we've overrated him.
As much as I like watching Dirk there is a pretty glaring hole in his rebounding.
quote:Hard to crash the boards when you're jumping backward when you shoot. But still, no excuse for a 7-footer to be such an absence on the boards.
Post 98-99 Lockout (the year Dirk broke into the league) Dirk is 4th overall with 20 pt 10 rebound games.
1 Tim Duncan 416
2 Kevin Garnett 403
3 Shaq 329
4 Dirk 293
5 C-Webb 223
(Dwight Howard has 210 for those interested)
Anyway, if dig deeper and look at the 20-10 games with 1 or less Offensive rebound
1 Dirk 145
2 KG 77
3 Paul Pierce 45
4 Lebron 42
In almost half of Dirks 20/10 games does not do work on the offensive glass.
Good material.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:50 pm to xiv
at a guy averaging over 10 rebounds a game for his playoff career being a bad rebounder. at Dirk being one dimensional yet leading TWO SEPARATE flawed/starless casts to the Finals @ Mr. KG > Hakeem using payroll to try and overrate Dirk's supporting cast Mavs in 5
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:50 pm to xiv
quote:
When they're not your team (Hornets for me), literally anything is a reason not to cheer for them.
Honestly, if my team (Spurs) aren't in the finals (rarely happens), then I pick the least hated team.
In this case, it's Miami.
I will never, ever root for the Mavs, even when they play the Lakers.
That organization is just nauseating to me. The owner is a huge douche bag that shops at baby gap and thinks his haircut is cool.
Dirk is just a pussy that is one dimensional on the court and probably off it. And Jason Terry went ahead and got a tattoo of the finals trophy.
Enough said.
Whats fun about a message board is you can come on here and tell people how you really feel.
I have a friend that sucks Dirks cock every time he can. Needless to say, I can't tell him shite like this because we'd probably end our friendship if I did.
This post was edited on 6/2/11 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:50 pm to ocelot4ark
quote:I guess there's not a German word for "follow your shot," one of the first things you learn in basketball.
He's almost always been a mid-post/perimeter player. It shouldn't surprise anyone that he's a sub-par offensive rebounder.
If anyone doesn't crash the boards, it's almost always the point guard, not a goddamn 7-footer.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:52 pm to Philosoraptor
You're a clueless bandwagoner
and xiv is a butthurt Hornets fan.
Dirk/Chandler have better defensive rebound rates than anyone on the Heat so far this postseason.
and xiv is a butthurt Hornets fan.
Dirk/Chandler have better defensive rebound rates than anyone on the Heat so far this postseason.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:53 pm to Ghazi
quote:And this year (the year I keep hearing that he's toughened up), he's averaging about 7.
at a guy averaging over 10 rebounds a game for his playoff career being a bad rebounder.
quote:Don't the Mavs have the 2nd-highest payroll?
at Dirk being one dimensional yet leading TWO SEPARATE flawed/starless casts to the Finals
Either you're full of shite, or Cuban is a shitty owner. I'll go with the former.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:54 pm to xiv
quote:
Either you're full of shite, or Cuban is a shitty owner. I'll go with the former.
It's all of the above.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:54 pm to Philosoraptor
quote:Queer.
Honestly, if my team (Spurs)
quote:I'm neutral on Miami, and I hate Dallas. Simple math has me rooting for the smaller-market, smaller-payroll Heat this summer.
aren't in the finals (rarely happens), then I pick the least hated team.
quote:I've gotten unfollowed on twitter by a couple similar gaywads.
I have a friend that sucks Dirks cock every time he can. Needless to say, I can't tell him shite like this because we'd probably end our friendship if I did.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:55 pm to Ghazi
quote:
You're a clueless bandwagoner
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:55 pm to xiv
$11 million of that payroll is in a suit
And it doesn't change the fact that the Mavs have no stars or all-NBA players to compliment Nowitzki
Meanwhile Kobe has Gasol, Lebron has Wade, Duncan has Parker/Ginobili, and Garnett has Pierce/Rondo..
Dirk's defensive rebounding has been poor this postseason, but its an exception to the rule.
Dirk's tougher than anyone on the Hornets.
And it doesn't change the fact that the Mavs have no stars or all-NBA players to compliment Nowitzki
Meanwhile Kobe has Gasol, Lebron has Wade, Duncan has Parker/Ginobili, and Garnett has Pierce/Rondo..
Dirk's defensive rebounding has been poor this postseason, but its an exception to the rule.
Dirk's tougher than anyone on the Hornets.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:57 pm to Ghazi
The payroll argument is weak stuff... look at just how bad the Mavs were with Nowitzki out... 2-7 and uncompetitive in a lot of the losses.
Mavs in 5
Mavs in 5
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:58 pm to MrBossHogg
quote:
In almost half of Dirks 20/10 games does not do work on the offensive glass.
this seems kind of obvious for a guy who has made his living shooting fade away J's.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:01 pm to xiv
quote:
Simple math has me rooting for the smaller-market, smaller-payroll Heat this summer.
That weak.
quote:
unfollowed on twitter
And you called me queer.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:04 pm to Ghazi
quote:The Heat and Mavericks have played the same amount of games (16) so far in the postseason. Total number of playoff rebounds:
Dirk/Chandler have better defensive rebound rates than anyone on the Heat so far this postseason.
Chandler 144
Bosh 143
James 142
Nowitzki 121
Wade 118
That's why the Heat will win--their big 3 work hard on the boards. There's no way Wade should be anywhere near Dirk, and there's no way James should be outrebounding him.
This post was edited on 6/2/11 at 3:05 pm
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