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re: In case you still think the Mavs aren't soft
Posted on 6/13/11 at 8:55 pm to HubbaBubba
Posted on 6/13/11 at 8:55 pm to HubbaBubba
quote:Very witty.
You come across like some dumb arse calling about his TV not working, "Well... It was broken when I called you but it's working now."
Seriously, guys, I don't see what the big deal is. The Mavs played like pussies, and they were down 2-1, and I started this thread.
Then they played differently and won three straight. Is this true, or am I hallucinating?
Does the fact that they kicked arse in the past three games change how they played in the first three games? If so, I really need to take some time to rethink how I see the concept of time.
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:12 pm to xiv
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Chandler got outrebounded by Wade, and he got posterized by Wade twice. I don't get the idea that Chandler is somehow tough. He is one of the softest starting centers I've ever seen.
You must be a very bitter Hornets fan. Chandler is a hell of a lot better and tougher than Dampier was. Chandler gave the Mavs a solid defender in the paint, something that they never had.
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Not only is this untrue, but it contradicts what you've said in this very post. Dirk crashed the boards in the 2nd half of the series, and it made a huge difference. He became a multidimensional player overnight, and it KILLED the Heat.
No he didn't. As I pointed out, Dirk had more rebounds in games 1-3 than he did in games 4-6. HE HAS AVERAGED 10+ REBOUNDS IN THE PLAYOFFS THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER. News flash, Dirk has always been able to rebound in the playoffs.
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Maybe Dallas' defense was better in this series than we thought.
No, maybe it was better than YOU thought.
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Does the fact that they kicked arse in the past three games change how they played in the first three games? If so, I really need to take some time to rethink how I see the concept of time.
If any team played differently in the last 3 games it was the Heat. Mostly Wade in the last 2. Dallas played their normal game, made a few adjustments (No Peja, more zone) and hit the open shots that they had missed in the 1st 3 games.
This post was edited on 6/13/11 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:22 pm to ZTiger87
quote:There's an oak tree on my block that's a tougher defender than Dampier was.
Chandler is a hell of a lot better and tougher than Dampier was.
You might as well say that the Cowboys have a great quarterback in Romo because he's better and tougher than Anthony Wright.
quote:He's always been able to rebound because he's 7' tall. He just hasn't always done it.
News flash, Dirk has always been able to rebound in the playoffs.
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Maybe Dallas' defense was better in this series than we thought.
No, maybe it was better than you thought.
Who the hell was talking about how good the Dallas defense was?quote:It's impossible to not notice the difference in the way Dallas played (you even point out their different strategy by taking Peja out), but otherwise this is a good point.
If any team played differently in the last 3 games it was the Heat. Mostly Wade in the last 2. Dallas played their normal game, made a few adjustments (No Peja, more zone) and hit the open shots that they had missed in the 1st 3 games.
This post was edited on 6/13/11 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:23 pm to xiv
Chandler is a top 10 rebounder and made all-NBA 2nd team defense this year
far from soft
just admit YOU WAS WRONG BOUT DEM MAVS
far from soft
just admit YOU WAS WRONG BOUT DEM MAVS
Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:29 pm to xiv
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There's an oak tree on my block that's a tougher defender than Dampier was.
You might as well say that the Cowboys have a great quarterback in Romo because he's better and tougher than Anthony Wright.
If you can't see how Chandler made the team tougher, not just personality wise, but actual on court performance wise, then you really are delusional.
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He's always been able to rebound because he's 7' tall. He just hasn't always done it.
WTF man. He has averaged 10+ rebounds a game in the playoffs for his entire career. It wasn't a swich he just turned on for the last 3 games of the finals.
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Who the hell was talking about how good the Dallas defense was?
No one. No one was saying it was bad or going to keep them from winning a title either.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:33 pm to xiv
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Most of this thread happened in the first three games of the series, when the Mavs played like pussies and only controlled four of the first 144 minutes of the series.
Which pussies won game two in Miami?
Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:37 pm to ZTiger87
quote:Then call me delusional. That dude is a huge pussy.
If you can't see how Chandler made the team tougher, not just personality wise, but actual on court performance wise, then you really are delusional.
quote:Then it was a switch he turned OFF for the rest of the playoffs until the 2nd half of the Finals.
WTF man. He has averaged 10+ rebounds a game in the playoffs for his entire career. It wasn't a swich he just turned on for the last 3 games of the finals.
quote:True--they were too busy blaming the refs.
No one was saying it was bad or going to keep them from winning a title either.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:47 pm to xiv
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Then it was a switch he turned OFF for the rest of the playoffs until the 2nd half of the Finals.
Like I pointed out earlier, he had a bad rebounding series against the Thunder. He rebounded well in the Portland series. He rebounded well in the Lakers series. He rebounded well in the 1st 3 games against Miami. What are you not comprehending about this? How do you ignore that he had more rebounds in games 1-3 than in games 4-6?
Posted on 6/13/11 at 10:08 pm to ZTiger87
Jesus Christ, they won, nobocy cares what some anonymous message board douche thinks about their "softness".
Posted on 6/13/11 at 10:17 pm to xiv
Dude you started an asinine thread. You can write a fukn thesis about why you're right if you like. Just make sure the last sentence is "I'm dead wrong and will not admit it because I'm a pussy".
Posted on 6/13/11 at 10:46 pm to xiv
xiv, the reason this thread is indefensible and ignorant is that you disregarded Dallas' playoff run up to the Finals. Did you watch the LA series? What about the OKC series? Is it really shocking that Dallas' role players shot the ball so well? Dallas is a unique team that has a player who has to be double teamed and the surround him with great shooters who do a great job of moving the ball.
Another problem I have with this thread is that you acted like Dallas was run out of the gym in game 1 and game 3. They lost game 1 by 8 with LeBron shooting out of his mind and they lost by 2 in game 3. Let's not forget that Dallas was up by 9 with 2 minutes left in the first half in game 3. Then you come on here spewing all of this negative, biased crap about how soft Dallas is. What happens next? Tyson Chandler comes out in game 4 and does what he did all season and comes up with a huge double double and Dirk continued to dominate Wade and LeBron in the fourth quarters. You can justify this asinine thread all you want but it won't change the fact that it is one of the most ignorant threads I have seen on this board in a long, long time.
Another problem I have with this thread is that you acted like Dallas was run out of the gym in game 1 and game 3. They lost game 1 by 8 with LeBron shooting out of his mind and they lost by 2 in game 3. Let's not forget that Dallas was up by 9 with 2 minutes left in the first half in game 3. Then you come on here spewing all of this negative, biased crap about how soft Dallas is. What happens next? Tyson Chandler comes out in game 4 and does what he did all season and comes up with a huge double double and Dirk continued to dominate Wade and LeBron in the fourth quarters. You can justify this asinine thread all you want but it won't change the fact that it is one of the most ignorant threads I have seen on this board in a long, long time.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 11:01 pm to ZTiger87
quote:7 a game. Your subjective labels of "bad" and "well" don't add up to the fact that he averaged three fewer boards per game during the playoffs as of last week.
Like I pointed out earlier, he had a bad rebounding series against the Thunder. He rebounded well in the Portland series. He rebounded well in the Lakers series. He rebounded well in the 1st 3 games against Miami. What are you not comprehending about this?
quote:Perhaps I'm counting wrong, but I just researched, and much to my surprise, it appears he had the exact same amount of rebounds in the first three games as he did in the final three games, which would make us both wrong. I still saw him play tougher in the past three games than ever before. I also have 20/10 vision, so it isn't my eyes.
What are you not comprehending about this? How do you ignore that he had more rebounds in games 1-3 than in games 4-6?
Posted on 6/13/11 at 11:03 pm to crimsonsaint
quote:I started a thread about how the Mavs were playing like crap when the Mavs were playing like crap. Does the fact that the Mavs started playing like tits afterwards change the fact that the Mavs at first played like crap?
Dude you started an asinine thread. You can write a fukn thesis about why you're right if you like.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 11:10 pm to ThePistol
quote:I said in another thread a couple days ago that it wasn't a fluke that they shot 68% from downtown in game 5 because they do that once every couple weeks (some called it a fluke), but it would be seriously amazing if they did it two games in a row vs. a defense like Miami's, and they did just that. Shocking? Maybe that's not the right word, but it's pretty close. I've never seen ANY team shoot that well for two straight games.
Is it really shocking that Dallas' role players shot the ball so well?
quote:No sir. I didn't. I have been perfectly clear about this: The first four games were lost by the losing team more than won by the winning team (I even started a thread over it). Miami played subpar ball in games 1 through 3; luckily for them, the Mavs played like poons.
Another problem I have with this thread is that you acted like Dallas was run out of the gym in game 1 and game 3.
quote:You make it sound like I just started doing it. Dallas played like pussies for nearly a decade, and I've been pointing it out for years.
Then you come on here spewing all of this negative, biased crap about how soft Dallas is.
quote:Alright, guys, what part aren't you getting? Dallas played like shite in games 1thru3, and then I started this thread about how Dallas played like shite in games 1thru3.
Tyson Chandler comes out in game 4 and does what he did all season and comes up with a huge double double and Dirk continued to dominate Wade and LeBron in the fourth quarters.
Stay with me here....
THEN Dallas played really well in games 4thru6 and won the title because of how awesome they played.
But get this....
Their performance in games 4thru6 have NOTHING TO DO WITH their performance in games 1thru3.
Does everybody understand how this works? If you're still confused about this, raise your hand.
quote:Sorry, it doesn't work, no matter how many of you do it. If I started this thread yesterday, then you'd have a point. But, I didn't. I started a thread about the Mavs playing like pussies when the Mavs were playing like pussies. If you don't get it, I don't know what else to tell you.
You can justify this asinine thread all you want but it won't change the fact that it is one of the most ignorant threads I have seen on this board in a long, long time.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 11:56 pm to xiv
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7 a game. Your subjective labels of "bad" and "well" don't add up to the fact that he averaged three fewer boards per game during the playoffs as of last week
No you aren't getting it. Take the OKC series away and he averaged 9.5 rebounds a game in the playoffs. You are basically saying he didn't rebound well the entire playoffs because his playoff average wasn't where it normally is. That is a horribly flawed argument when you are only dealing with 15 games.
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Perhaps I'm counting wrong, but I just researched, and much to my surprise, it appears he had the exact same amount of rebounds in the first three games as he did in the final three games, which would make us both wrong. I still saw him play tougher in the past three games than ever before. I also have 20/10 vision, so it isn't my eyes.
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Games 1-3 rebound totals: 8-11-11 = 30.
Games 4-6 rebound totals: 11-6-11 = 28.
Apparently your eyes suck.
Posted on 6/14/11 at 12:27 am to ZTiger87
quote:No. It counts just as much as everything else. A friend of mine told me once, "If you take away all the Beatles songs, Paul McCartney really isn't that great," and I'm like, "Yeah, but he was still in the Beatles."
No you aren't getting it. Take the OKC series away
Sure, take away the OKC series, and you can spin your selective statistics any way you want, but the OKC series existed just as much as any.
Posted on 6/14/11 at 7:54 am to xiv
Soft arse finals' MVP that can't rebound. All he does is shoot? All he does is win.
Posted on 6/14/11 at 8:17 am to xiv
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Dallas played like shite in games 1thru3, and then I started this thread about how Dallas played like shite in games 1thru3.
They lost by 8 on the road with LeBron shooting out of his mind (talk about flukes). Then, they win on the road and lose by 2 at home with a shot to tie or win at the end. They were not playing like shite or soft. This was a team that had won their first round series 4-2, swept the defending champs 4-0 in embarrasing fashion, and then handled OKC in the confrence finals 4-1. The reason this thread was asinine is because through three games this NBA finals was shaping up to be epic with both teams breezing their way through their respective confrence brackets. Dallas lost game 1 and then wins game 2, they lose game 3 (by 2) and then you come on here with this garbage. It had to be fueled by hate for the Mavericks or simple ignorance. It's that simple.
Posted on 6/14/11 at 8:20 am to crimsonsaint
To xiv,
Let's just settle this:
You need help. Maybe Xanax. Probably both.
Let it go.
You're welcome.
Let's just settle this:
You need help. Maybe Xanax. Probably both.
Let it go.
You're welcome.
This post was edited on 6/14/11 at 8:21 am
Posted on 6/14/11 at 10:07 am to crimsonsaint
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Dude you started an asinine thread. You can write a fukn thesis about why you're right if you like. Just make sure the last sentence is "I'm dead wrong and will not admit it because I'm a pussy".
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