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re: In case you still think the Mavs aren't soft

Posted on 6/13/11 at 6:17 pm to
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 6:17 pm to
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Wade was the leading rebounder in the series thru 3 games. Then fluky shite like the heat winning and guards getting gazillion rebounds as a result of inexplicable poor dallas shooting stopped.


FIFY
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 6:17 pm to
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Not really. Average.

10th overall in total points against. Which is definitely better than average considering the division they play in.

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Oddly enough, this was his weakest rebounding playoff season ever

if this is true, which i havent looked up the number for, makes you even a bigger idiot for talking shite about his rebounding.

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Dirk outrebounded all players

apparently not surprising, according to the above

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the Mavs enlisted a goon for 12 minutes a game

first team in history to do so

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Mavs shot better than any team in history.

great shooters made open shots.


Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37831 posts
Posted on 6/13/11 at 6:22 pm to
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Dallas played differently in the last three games than they had played for the last near-decade. Why would this make me feel stupid? Why do the last three games change the last seven years?


This thread is about the 2011 NBA Finals. Everything you said, at least on pg 1, was about this particular series. Don't go crawfishing now. Man up.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 6:24 pm to
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Not really. Average.


They were a top 10 defense. Hardly average.

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Oddly enough, this was his weakest rebounding playoff season ever.


He had 1 weak rebounding series. He rebounded well in the finals and has rebounded well in the playoffs in his career.

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Dirk outrebounded all players,


Not shocking that Dirk would outrebound anyone on the Heat.

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the Mavs enlisted a goon for 12 minutes a game,


Who was their goon? Are you talking about Cardinal? He played 4 minutes a game.

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the Mavs shot better than any team in history.


In a few games they did.

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Nice try at being a smart arse, but you need to do a little more research.


Right. Maybe you should have watched Dallas before the last 3 games of the finals. Your whole thread was fail when it was made.
This post was edited on 6/13/11 at 6:25 pm
Posted by Ghazi
Dallas Mavs 2011 NBA Champions
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 6:24 pm to
xiv owned
Posted by Analyze That
ThereAndBackAgain
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 6:29 pm to
Damn ur nutthurt
Posted by vuvuzela
Oregon
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 6:39 pm to
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xiv


hey dude, i'm sitting in class right now but I just had to say this thread contains HILARIOUS amounts of fail. the more you defend it the funnier it gets!
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12536 posts
Posted on 6/13/11 at 6:42 pm to
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YOU FUNNY!!! NOT. YOU need to get DIRKS DICK OUTTA YOUR MOUTH. Get done eating your peanut butter and jelly and join the BIG BOY TALK. OK?? What a DIPSHIT. OH thats right you are from ARKANSAS. I forgot.


Usually when someone resorts to insults, they're admitting that they don't know what the frick they're talking about. Glad to see you're not the exception.

Oh - and I'm from Texas. Bitch.
This post was edited on 6/13/11 at 6:44 pm
Posted by vuvuzela
Oregon
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 6:57 pm to
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NOT.




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Get done eating your peanut butter and jelly and join the BIG BOY TALK.




Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 6:59 pm to
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Usually when someone resorts to insults, they're admitting that they don't know what the frick they're talking about. Glad to see you're not the exception.


I know more about the NBA then you will ever think of. You are just a punk kid with ZERO knowledge trying to impress people on a mesage board. THERE IS a REASON I am here. YOU, NOT SO MUCH.
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:04 pm to
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Not really. Average.


10th overall in total points against. Which is definitely better than average considering the division they play in.
Not a bad point. The best points-allowed was ~91 by Boston; the league mean was just over 100; Dallas allowed ~96.5 a game. Closer to average than to the top, yes, but my labeling it "average" can be a tad harsh.
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Oddly enough, this was his weakest rebounding playoff season ever


if this is true, which i havent looked up the number for, makes you even a bigger idiot for talking shite about his rebounding.
For his career, he was averaging ~10 boards a game for the playoffs; this year until the final three games, he was right at ~7. Then he played some pretty hard-nosed ball, and look what happened.

(I'm confused as to what about this makes me sound stupid, though--it seems to confirm what I'd been saying. I'd criticized Dirk for not rebounding enough; he was lax on the boards for the first three games, two of which the Heat won; he then crashed for the final three games, all of which Dallas won.)
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Dirk outrebounded all players


apparently not surprising, according to the above
Dirk turned on a bit of a switch, it appears. I'd always made fun of him for wearing the mouthpiece ("Good thing he wears that mouthpiece for all those elbows to the face he takes while he's shooting those fades"/sarcasm), but in the final three games, he kicked arse and dared somebody to try to kick his arse. I admire everything about his play for the last three games of the series.

I also think that his offensive performance last night will always go underappreciated. He didn't shoot particularly well, but his teammates went like 34-52 from the field, which is unbelievable. I suspect that this is because Dirk was such a focus for the Miami defense that the others got open looks, open lanes (even Barea made the occasional layup ), etc...
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the Mavs enlisted a goon for 12 minutes a game


first team in history to do so

I get the sarcasm, but I think you misunderstand my point. Dallas has never done that, and I think they probably should have done it before. Virtually all championship teams have one or two of them. It's about time Dallas threw one in there; good for them.
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Mavs shot better than any team in history.


great shooters made open shots.

...and really tough, non-open shots, too. Best shooting performance over a couple games I've ever seen.
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:06 pm to
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This thread is about the 2011 NBA Finals. Everything you said, at least on pg 1, was about this particular series. Don't go crawfishing now. Man up.
Most of this thread happened in the first three games of the series, when the Mavs played like pussies and only controlled four of the first 144 minutes of the series.

Then they won a see-saw battle in game 4 and went into beast mode for the final two games.

No crawfishing necessary. I call it how I see it, when I see it. The Mavs played like girls for the first half of the series; that hasn't changed now that they kicked all that arse in the final three games.
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:15 pm to
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Dirk outrebounded all players,



Not shocking that Dirk would outrebound anyone on the Heat.

Again, he averaged 7 boards a game until the final three games. He's been outrebounded a lot. Then he started crashing. Props.
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the Mavs enlisted a goon for 12 minutes a game,



Who was their goon? Are you talking about Cardinal? He played 4 minutes a game.
I'm talking about specifically what was different in the way Dallas played the final three games as opposed to the earlier games. Look at this:

Minutes for Cardinal:
Game 1: 0:00
Game 2: 1:00
Game 3: 0:07
Game 4: 7:24
Game 5: 9:37
Game 6: 12:12


The increased minutes for Cardinal showed that the Mavericks were willing to play rough and dirty. Great coaching strategy by Rick on that one.
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Nice try at being a smart arse, but you need to do a little more research.



Right. Maybe you should have watched Dallas before the last 3 games of the finals. Your whole thread was fail when it was made.
Again, you're almost there, but you need to inform yourself a little better before you're in a position to tell me which of my threads fail and win. The difference between Dallas in games 1thru3 and games 4thru6 is like night and day. I'm happy for them. They definitely deserved this title.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12536 posts
Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:20 pm to
So for those that still think the Mavs aren't soft...

They're not soft, then, right?
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:23 pm to
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Most of this thread happened in the first three games of the series, when the Mavs played like pussies and only controlled four of the first 144 minutes of the series.


And THIS matters HOW???. Sometimes its NOT how you start , its how you finish. Example:THE MAVS IN THESE FINALS!!!. HEY xiv, YOU can throw ALL your stats out. The MAVS were the better team start to finish.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:27 pm to
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Sometimes its NOT how you start , its how you finish. Example:THE MAVS IN THESE FINALS!!!. The MAVS were the better team start to finish.
+1
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12536 posts
Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:27 pm to
PEANUTBUTTERANDJELLY!
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 6/13/11 at 8:11 pm to
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Again, he averaged 7 boards a game until the final three games. He's been outrebounded a lot. Then he started crashing. Props


He averaged more rebounds in the 1st 3 games of the series than in the last 3 games of the series. Again, he had a poor rebounding series against OKC and 1 poor rebounding game against Portland. You take those games out and he averaged 10 rebounds a game.

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The increased minutes for Cardinal showed that the Mavericks were willing to play rough and dirty. Great coaching strategy by Rick on that one.


No, he took Peja's minutes because Peja was playing like crap in the finals. He also took some of Haywood's minute after Haywood got hurt. Cardinal played more minutes in game 6 becaue Dirk and Chandler got into early foul trouble.

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Again, you're almost there, but you need to inform yourself a little better before you're in a position to tell me which of my threads fail and win. The difference between Dallas in games 1thru3 and games 4thru6 is like night and day. I'm happy for them. They definitely deserved this title.


No your thread failed. The Mavs have not been a soft team all year. Maybe before this year, but Chandler and Butler really changed that. The bs you have spouted makes you come off as someone that payed little attention to the Mavs this season before the finals. The only difference between Mavs in game 1-3 and 4-6 is that they hit more of their open shots and Peja didn't play at all. I guess you can say they also threw in more zone, but the Mavs have been playing some zone for a while now.
This post was edited on 6/13/11 at 8:12 pm
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 6/13/11 at 8:47 pm to
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The Mavs have not been a soft team all year. Maybe before this year, but Chandler and Butler really changed that.
Chandler got outrebounded by Wade, and he got posterized by Wade twice. I don't get the idea that Chandler is somehow tough. He is one of the softest starting centers I've ever seen.
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The only difference between Mavs in game 1-3 and 4-6 is that they hit more of their open shots and Peja didn't play at all.
Not only is this untrue, but it contradicts what you've said in this very post. Dirk crashed the boards in the 2nd half of the series, and it made a huge difference. He became a multidimensional player overnight, and it KILLED the Heat.
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I guess you can say they also threw in more zone, but the Mavs have been playing some zone for a while now.

I suspect that this has gone understated by us all. We're slamming Lebron for not driving to the hoop enough, but Wade didn't do it enough, either.

Maybe Dallas' defense was better in this series than we thought.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51775 posts
Posted on 6/13/11 at 8:51 pm to
You come across like some dumb arse calling about his TV not working, "Well... It was broken when I called you but it's working now."
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