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re: In a height of irony, Mike/Mike is attacking Sterling's wife for attending Gm 5
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:00 pm to shel311
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:00 pm to shel311
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Again, you have dodged my questions every time,
not intentionally
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why did she use the term "black",
idk...she could be racist or she could be descriptive when talking to people....had he been fat she may have said "fat mofo"
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and why don't you use it if it's not racist?
I usually say dumb or stupid mofo when I am pissed....but in general just don't talk down to people.
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it should also offend you if it happens to anyone. Seems reasonable to me.
I really don't care about things i can't immediately control. I will think damn that was uncalled for but will not dwell on it.
I think the world would be a better place if people weren't offended so easily. I use humor when dealing with tragedy/death/most things in life and some people get so offended by it...deal with it its a joke is my attitude.
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:04 pm to shel311
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Why are you fixated on this and not the real issue in play here?
Excuse me? What issue are you referring to? That he's a racist? Really? Again, did his racism cause him to mistreat his tenants of color or was it him just being a slumlord?
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You're sure that Donald Sterling would have just let them do it that easily? Really?
Seems like a reasonable request before taking the step of moving would be to at the very least ask for lower rental rates. Again, that's not even the issue at hand, nor was it the main issue at hand in the discrimination suit.
They had the same ability as their fellow tenants likely. In the end, unless he actually used his racial beliefs to discriminate against those tenants based on their race, they have no leg to stand on.
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Intent plays a HUGE part in this and it should, don't you agree?
Really? So now we are judging a players intent to justify minimal punishment for using prejudice behavior? Sterline is a POS, and his intent was for his side piece to not embarrass him. Right or Wrong, his intent wasn't to keep blacks from attending his game. It was to keep his GF from bringing them with her. It's a personal choice.
Why is it that anyone seeing the huge stupidity and double standard used by Silver and the players here means they are okay with Sterling's behavior? I'm not, but I am for equal treatment, and the NBA has now shown if you are White, then you are held to a different standard than if you are Black.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:06 pm to Topwater Trout
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idk...she could be racist or she could be descriptive when talking to people
Let me phrase it a different way, ever heard anyone use that type of term, like "black" in that way that was not really racist? Yea, probably not.
quote:Same here.
I will think damn that was uncalled for but will not dwell on it.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:07 pm to Shaft Williams
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You act like moving is easy as 1,2,3? Have you considered that the tenants were already financially strapped?!
Again, are you telling me that other tenants of different races are some how in better financial positions? Were they treated differently in their housing worthiness? If not, it seems people of color in this case tried to use their minority status to gain a leg up, when their race wasn't in any way used to dictate Sterling's actions with regards to their housing.
Maybe he was, but I have yet to see proof his wife did anything other then a single quote from a defendant trying to make a claim in a civil suit and we all know that no one lies under oath when they are trying to win a case.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:10 pm to Geauxgurt
quote:No, the lowering of the rent. We were talking about his wife's racist ways, but you're fixatd on the lowering of the rent quotes.
Excuse me? What issue are you referring to? That he's a racist?
quote:What ability was that?
They had the same ability as their fellow tenants likely.
quote:He paid the highest ever fine in that regard, if I'm not mistaken, so...
In the end, unless he actually used his racial beliefs to discriminate against those tenants based on their race, they have no leg to stand on.
quote:Of course intent should play a factor, would people really argue otherwise?
Really? So now we are judging a players intent to justify minimal punishment for using prejudice behavior?
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:11 pm to Geauxgurt
quote:Go read an article on it, I think you'll change your stance pretty quickly if you're willing to not reject the information you read in said article.
Again, are you telling me that other tenants of different races are some how in better financial positions? Were they treated differently in their housing worthiness? If not, it seems people of color in this case tried to use their minority status to gain a leg up, when their race wasn't in any way used to dictate Sterling's actions with regards to their housing
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:11 pm to Geauxgurt
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Again, are you telling me that other tenants of different races are some how in better financial positions? Were they treated differently in their housing worthiness? If not, it seems people of color in this case tried to use their minority status to gain a leg up, when their race wasn't in any way used to dictate Sterling's actions with regards to their housing.
Maybe he was, but I have yet to see proof his wife did anything other then a single quote from a defendant trying to make a claim in a civil suit and we all know that no one lies under oath when they are trying to win a case.
I see you're determined to defend the Sterlings. I just hope you're a billionaire like they are because if not you're a damn fool defending people who can and will defend themselves and who have nothing in common with you. I'm sure Sterling would abuse poor and middle income Whites like Hispanics and Blacks. But, his racism regarding Hispanics and Blacks has been proven unequivocally.
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:15 pm to Shaft Williams
I am not determined to defend them in any way. I think Sterling is a POS, but the reaction against him and now his wife are turning into ridiculous proportions.
As long as the NBA is consistent, I have no problem with them using this extreme, but all need to be held accountable.
It's the idea that you are going to eliminate racism by reffing only one side of the issue, while letting the other side play. It's stupid and counterproductive.
Also, I am sick of people acting like this is the worst racist act in years, yet an avid black associate of the NBA calls for violence against a white man's parents even posting their address online is perfectly fine.
As long as the NBA is consistent, I have no problem with them using this extreme, but all need to be held accountable.
It's the idea that you are going to eliminate racism by reffing only one side of the issue, while letting the other side play. It's stupid and counterproductive.
Also, I am sick of people acting like this is the worst racist act in years, yet an avid black associate of the NBA calls for violence against a white man's parents even posting their address online is perfectly fine.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:18 pm to shel311
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like "black" in that way that was not really racist
I have heard some people say look at the little black fricker run...but i don't think that really qualifies as being racist. Insensitive? possibly.
Let me ask this...when someone says "that dude got some hops for a white guy"...is that racist?
I could be completely wrong but I don't understand how a true racist (in the sense I believe someone is a racist) could cheer for the same people they claim to hate.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:19 pm to Geauxgurt
quote:Ok, now give me the black player/owner/employee with a similar history as Sterling so I can see where the inconsistency is.
As long as the NBA is consistent, I have no problem with them using this extreme, but all need to be held accountable.
It's the idea that you are going to eliminate racism by reffing only one side of the issue, while letting the other side play. It's stupid and counterproductive.
Sterling basically got a "lifetime achievement award" by the NBA, media, and basically everyone. The media and NBA ignored this way back when, and they're making up for it now. So this alone probably shouldn't have warranted a lifetime ban, but the end result is something tha tshould have happened a long time ago.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:20 pm to Geauxgurt
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As long as the NBA is consistent, I have no problem with them using this extreme, but all need to be held accountable.
amen...we will wait and see but I doubt they will stick to the precedent they set yesterday.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:21 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:I didn't emphasize it in my post, but I mentioned using that term in that way. What she said and saying, "he got hops for a white guy" are saying it 2 completely different ways, IMO...again going back to intent.
Let me ask this...when someone says "that dude got some hops for a white guy"...is that racist?
quote:Donald Sterling is racist, let's be serious here.
I could be completely wrong but I don't understand how a true racist (in the sense I believe someone is a racist) could cheer for the same people they claim to hate.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:22 pm to shel311
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Sterling basically got a "lifetime achievement award" by the NBA, media, and basically everyone. The media and NBA ignored this way back when, and they're making up for it now. So this alone probably shouldn't have warranted a lifetime ban, but the end result is something tha tshould have happened a long time ago.
No, he didn't, and the NBA commissioner said such. He clearly stated it had nothing to do with anything other than the tape, so don't try to deflect this somehow. If Silver stated what you did, fine, but he make specifically sure to state it was only with regards to this released private conversation.
Spike Lee has been affiliated with the NBA for how many years? You can claim that he is just a fan, but he's worked with them on many, many avenues. If Sterling is banned from attending any NBA event even as a fan, then Spike Lee should be too.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:25 pm to Geauxgurt
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I am not determined to defend them in any way. I think Sterling is a POS, but the reaction against him and now his wife are turning into ridiculous proportions.
As long as the NBA is consistent, I have no problem with them using this extreme, but all need to be held accountable.
It's the idea that you are going to eliminate racism by reffing only one side of the issue, while letting the other side play. It's stupid and counterproductive.
Also, I am sick of people acting like this is the worst racist act in years, yet an avid black associate of the NBA calls for violence against a white man's parents even posting their address online is perfectly fine.
Trust, I know racism isn't going to be eliminated. I'm from Louisiana. Some people need racism like they need oxygen or they'd have no self-worth.
When did Spike Lee become "an avid black associate of the NBA?" Sure, he's a Knicks season ticket holder but I don't know what ""an avid black associate of the NBA" is. That can be the black pants the NBA refs wear.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:27 pm to shel311
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Donald Sterling is racist, let's be serious here
probably so but I was talking about people I have heard use black when describing someone. I don't think I know anyone who is openly racist.
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back to intent.
I am not ready to label someone a racist unless I hear them proclaim their hate for a group.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:27 pm to Geauxgurt
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No, he didn't, and the NBA commissioner said such. He clearly stated it had nothing to do with anything other than the tape, so don't try to deflect this somehow. If Silver stated what you did, fine, but he make specifically sure to state it was only with regards to this released private conversation.
Trust this is a lifetime achievement award. For Silver to say the ban is due to incidents over decades, he'd throw his mentor and former boss, David Stern, under the bus. He wasn't going to do that.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:28 pm to Geauxgurt
No one seems to care that Sterling told his whore it's okay for her to have sex with Magic Johnson.
That's what I'm most shocked about.
That's what I'm most shocked about.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:32 pm to Shaft Williams
The bottom line is Sterling was/is bad news. From his past acts, he had this coming. I know Sterling settled the housing discrimination cases but a NBA player would have been faced with disciplinary action if he'd settled a legal matter that was a bad reflection on his behavior.
The NBA and former commissioner Stern dropped the ball by not punishing Sterling for those housing cases. They weren't going to do anything that could be seen as letting Sterling get over.
The NBA and former commissioner Stern dropped the ball by not punishing Sterling for those housing cases. They weren't going to do anything that could be seen as letting Sterling get over.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:34 pm to Geauxgurt
quote:This is a lifetime achievement award.
No, he didn't, and the NBA commissioner said such. He clearly stated it had nothing to do with anything other than the tape, so don't try to deflect this somehow. If Silver stated what you did, fine, but he make specifically sure to state it was only with regards to this released private conversation
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:34 pm to whoisnickdoobs
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No one seems to care that Sterling told his whore it's okay for her to have sex with Magic Johnson.
That's what I'm most shocked about.
He knows he can't satisfy a young woman so I'm sure he assumed she was getting sexually satisfied by someone else or some other people. I know you saw Sterling leaving Fleming's on TV. He can barely walk so I know he wasn't hitting that woman worth a damn.
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