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re: If you could have one crew announce all your team's college football games

Posted on 10/29/11 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by Jamohn
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Posted on 10/29/11 at 1:45 pm to
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although i'm really growing to like the chris spielman/urban meyer booth.
Yeah. They are doing a very good job.
Posted by Buckeye06
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Posted on 10/29/11 at 1:46 pm to
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although i'm really growing to like the chris spielman/urban meyer booth.

Yeah. They are doing a very good job.


IMO they are the best right now. They notice things that fans don't (like when Spiels noticed about the pulling guard lining up a foot behind the other O-linemen) and explain why it's important. And they have good chemistry
Posted by Oopskie
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Posted on 10/29/11 at 1:52 pm to
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Ron Franklin and Mike Gottfried circa 1997


+ adrian karsten.....awesome.

"has 5, has 10, count it off as 14 for Faulk"

Posted by IAmTheHatOnMilesHead
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Posted on 10/29/11 at 1:57 pm to
No love for Mike Patrick?
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 10/29/11 at 1:58 pm to
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adrian karsten


Anyone else find it weird that he committed suicide?
Posted by LSUJuice
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Posted on 10/29/11 at 2:15 pm to
Wasn't he set to begin a jail sentence for tax evasion the next day?
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 10/29/11 at 2:19 pm to
I agree with the love for the 1990s ESPN booth. Blackledge, right now, is why you show patience in announcers. He was terrible his first year, but he kept working at it and I agree, he's now one of the best in the business.

I actually like Gary. He gets people's knickers in a twist because he has opinions and he's critical. But he has a strong point of view, and I like that. Whoever said he just props up the SEC obviously doesn't watch CBS very much and is unaware of how much each fanbase hates him for comments he's made critical of their beloved alma mater. I enjoy his commentary. Verne is, well, he used to be great. But he's an institution.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 10/29/11 at 2:38 pm to
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Whoever said he just props up the SEC obviously doesn't watch CBS very much and is unaware of how much each fanbase hates him for comments he's made critical of their beloved alma mater.


He might nit-pick teams in the SEC but he mostly is just an SEC Honk. I'm not the first or only to comment on this over the years...Stewart Mandel at Sports Illustrated has complained about...(saying how many letters he gets); College Football News has complained; ESPN writers.

Oklahoman media columnist Mel Bracht wrote that Danielson was out of line. "At one time, I respected CBS analyst Gary Danielson. When he worked for ESPN/ABC, he gave the Big 12 its due. Since joining CBS, he has gotten on the SEC bandwagon to the point of making some ludicrous comments about the Big 12 and other conferences."

"But critics — there are many — say Danielson is a shill for the SEC.

In 2006, he openly lobbied with broadcast partner Verne Lundquist for one-loss Florida to get a spot in the Bowl Championship Series title game."

Broadcasters should not be in the business of lobbying regardless of the circumstances.
This post was edited on 10/29/11 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 10/29/11 at 2:44 pm to
Im in the Ron "sweet cakes" franklin and mike gottfied camp
Also people brought up Karsten...what happened to the male sideline reporter who can actually contribute something other than looks? I cant think of any in cfb off the top of my head
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 10/29/11 at 2:45 pm to
First, every announcer is in the business of selling the game they are announcing. Gary "sells" the SEC because he announces exclusively SEC games, and he's paid to make the audience think this is the biggest game in the world. So saying he effectively sells the game he's announcing is a gross misunderstanding of what announcers get paid to do.

Secondly, criticising him for lobbying for the team that won the national title seems silly -- he was RIGHT.

Third, the Oklahoma paper just sounds like sour grapes. The SEC IS the best conference. He gets paid to announce the marquee game of themarquee conference every week. IT's absurd to expect him to say that the SEC isn't the best, when A) it's flatly untrue and B) contrary to his network's interest. He's not a journalist, he's an ingame commentator. The jobs are different.

The fact he IS critical of the teams playing shows he's doing he's job. It's not his job to downplay the quality of the game he's broadcasting.


ETA: I found the link you quoted from:
LINK

So Michigan fans hate him because he lobbied for Florida in 2006 and Oklahoma fans hate him because he said Bradford should've gone pro and not risked injury? If anything, that makes me like him more. The objection to him were for strong opinions that local partisans didn't like because he didn't toe their line.

Though he was wrong on the SEC QB line, and that was silly.
This post was edited on 10/29/11 at 2:50 pm
Posted by Jamohn
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Posted on 10/29/11 at 2:45 pm to
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Oklahoman media columnist Mel Bracht wrote that Danielson was out of line. "At one time, I respected CBS analyst Gary Danielson. When he worked for ESPN/ABC, he gave the Big 12 its due. Since joining CBS, he has gotten on the SEC bandwagon to the point of making some ludicrous comments about the Big 12 and other conferences.
Sounds like an angry Big 12 homer.
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In 2006, he openly lobbied with broadcast partner Verne Lundquist for one-loss Florida to get a spot in the Bowl Championship Series title game
Well, he was clearly right, wasn't he? He had an opinion based on what he saw and he turned out to be right. Florida was significantly better than Michigan (and Ohio State) that year.

During the West Virginia game, Kirk Herbstreit openly lobbied for LSU to move up to the #1 ranking. Was he suddenly a schill for the SEC? Two weeks later Herbstreit openly lobbied for Oklahoma to move into the #1 slot. Did that make him a Big 12 schill?
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 10/29/11 at 2:54 pm to
Here's the dispute:

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"I really wish Bob Stoops would have said to Sam Bradford, 'I'm sorry, I can't let you play for my team this year. I can't risk $70 million knowing that some guard will turn a linebacker loose and blow [out] your arm and knee.' I thought Sam should have been in the NFL."

A few days later, Danielson continued his criticism on Patrick's show, suggesting Stoops had developed a trend of convincing players to stay in college even if they were NFL ready.

"I think [Stoops] needs to look past that sometimes and say, I can't live with myself if you got your right shoulder or your left knee killed [at OU]. I think at some point he should say, listen, I just don't feel right about this. Are you sure? Are you sure?"

Stoops, upon hearing the comments, fired back. "That is ridiculous and it is insulting and it's foolish to say that."

Oklahoman media columnist Mel Bracht wrote that Danielson was out of line. "At one time, I respected CBS analyst Gary Danielson. When he worked for ESPN/ABC, he gave the Big 12 its due. Since joining CBS, he has gotten on the SEC bandwagon to the point of making some ludicrous comments about the Big 12 and other conferences."
Posted by Jamohn
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/29/11 at 2:58 pm to
Interesting. Sounds like the writer had that take already queued up and ready to go for the first time Danielson had an opinion on anything Big 12 related that could be construed as negative. He could have easily attacked the opinion on the specific issue without taking it to the league versus league level.
This post was edited on 10/29/11 at 3:00 pm
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/29/11 at 6:58 pm to
This is why I hate Danielson

"As Danielson noted, the Wolverines had two respectable victories, beating Notre Dame and Wisconsin teams that beefed up their records with easy schedules. Florida, on the other hand, had won in Knoxville against #17 Tennessee, beaten #4 LSU by two touchdowns, beat a Georgia team who had just upset two teams ranked in the Top 15, and won an SEC Championship Game against eighth-ranked Arkansas. After analyzing the graphic, Danielson left one question in the minds of the nationwide audience. Why was Michigan just seemingly being handed the #2 ranking?"

LINK

What I remember is him saying that Tennessee was better than anyone on Mich's schedule outside OSU, ND, and Wisky, yet PSU beat Tennessee by 10 points in the bowl game.

Danielson ended up being right in the end, but the way he went about it seemed unprofessional
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