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Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:31 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
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go check out iowa st's losses. everyone was to a ranked opponent except missouri. they also beat texas tech i believe when they were coming off the ou win.
That's kind of my point too.
They have good computer numbers because they lost to mostly decent teams but they lost quite decisively to every one of them except Oklahoma St. which the computers can't analyze.
Missouri wiped the turf with them 52-17.
They barely escaped at home against Northern Iowa 20-19. Northern Iowa.
They survived by skin of their teeth six days before beating Oklahoma St 13-10 at home over Kansas. Kansas.
Vanderbilt and Iowa State both beat UCONN by almost identical scores.
I'm not saying Iowa State is horrible because I don't think Vanderbilt is horrible either.
I'm just saying they're both mediocre 6-6 type teams that are pretty inseparable if you look at both their schedules.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:33 pm to wm72
true. i thought vandy made quite some progress this year.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:42 pm to wm72
The difference between Iowa State and Vanderbilt is that when Iowa State had Oklahoma State on the ropes, they finished them. When Vanderbilt had Arkansas on the ropes, they showed the whole world why they're Vanderbilt.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:48 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
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true. i thought vandy made quite some progress this year.
Yeah, that was kind of my original point until someone started saying how much better Iowa State was than Vandy.
Simply that if Alabama's one loss was to a 6-6 Vandy team I seriously doubt you'd see all the pollsters voting them #2 right now.
If anything, I'd say Oklahoma St is being treated better overall because so many people don't want to see a rematch.
Hell, Stanford probably has more of an argument about being treated badly in the polls. They have a better win than Oklahoma State coupled with a much, much better loss even though the rest of their schedule is much weaker.
If USC was in Stanford's position would they be getting a lot more #2 and #3 votes?
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:55 pm to trackfan
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The difference between Iowa State and Vanderbilt is that when Iowa State had Oklahoma State on the ropes, they finished them. When Vanderbilt had Arkansas on the ropes, they showed the whole world why they're Vanderbilt.
Fair enough. The difference between the two comes down to which team choked on clutch FG attempts.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:56 pm to wm72
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If USC was in Stanford's position would they be getting a lot more #2 and #3 votes?
I honestly don't think so - Stanford got blown-out by Oregon...that's hard to overcome by even the powers.
Plus, Stanford isn't exactly Wazzu this year - the national media is all over Luck; they have pull and swag with the voters.
Posted on 12/1/11 at 12:07 am to Zamoro10
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I honestly don't think so - Stanford got blown-out by Oregon...that's hard to overcome by even the powers.
Yeah, when I think about it I guess you're right.
However, in their defense, when things start to go pear-shaped against Oregon, any team's in danger of being down a few touchdowns in a hurry. Any team.
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 12:19 am to wm72
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Fair enough. The difference between the two comes down to which team choked on clutch FG attempts.
It wasn't about a missed field goal attempt. Iowa State was down 17 points and had to make a furious comeback just to send the game into overtime. Vanderbilt was playing from they front. All they had to do was keep the ball on the ground, not fumble it and run the clock out. Their task was much easier than Iowa State's task but they're Vanderbilt and that's why they couldn't do it.
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 12:32 am to trackfan
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It wasn't about a missed field goal attempt. Iowa State was down 17 points and had to make a furious comeback just to send the game into overtime. Vanderbilt was playing from they front. All they had to do was keep the ball on the ground, not fumble it and run the clock out. Their task was much easier than Iowa State's task but they're Vanderbilt and that's why they couldn't do it
Yeah, those games were pretty much the exact inverse.
I'm sure a lot of people changed the channel when all Oklahoma St had to do was ride out a 17pt second half lead over an offense playing a recently promoted RS Freshman QB that had only scored 1 TD against Kansas 6 days before.
Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:28 am to Zamoro10
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Yep.
And if LSU whips Okie State, then LSU will finish #1 and Bama can finish #2 and they can't complain because they had their chance and lost to #1.
Done and done. BCS works again.
Exactly.
Posted on 12/1/11 at 8:36 am to WikiTiger
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Oklahoma would be guaranteed a bcs ncg spot despite their home loss to Texas tech
and okie st loses on the road to a team with a winning record and they are getting ignored
Damn good point. Okie state lost on the road in overtime to a bowl eligible team. OU got beat at home...just like Alabama.
Posted on 12/1/11 at 8:44 am to JPLSU1981
See my thread about the ever-changing criteria that the media puts in place for "the darlings". It's a long rant, but it is similar to what you are saying:
EZ's Rant On Media Darlings And The Ever Changing Standards For The BCS
EZ's Rant On Media Darlings And The Ever Changing Standards For The BCS
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