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re: If Messi and C. Ronaldo are considered to be the two best...
Posted on 8/10/09 at 3:52 pm to hendersonshands
Posted on 8/10/09 at 3:52 pm to hendersonshands
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Xavi is very very good, and plays more than Iniesta. But if this is personal preference, I take Iniesta, Lampard sucks though.
Iniesta is good, but I'd find myself hard pressed to take him over Xavi, and Fabregas. Iniesta's possession play might be superior, as he hardly loses the ball, I don't think he has the vision of some other CM's.
Posted on 8/10/09 at 3:53 pm to hendersonshands
I think that Xavi and Gerard are definitely better than Iniesta. I would rate Iniesta above Lampard, but I really don't like the way Lampard turns and shoots so much. He seems to pick some of the most inopportune times to get trigger happy.
However, I would pick all of those guys over Fabregas.
However, I would pick all of those guys over Fabregas.
Posted on 8/10/09 at 3:53 pm to hendersonshands
oh since they both start over him?
you obviously dont know shite if you think iniesta is rt behind messi and ronaldo. etoo henry toure xavi are all better players for barca. iniesta doesnt even start
you obviously dont know shite if you think iniesta is rt behind messi and ronaldo. etoo henry toure xavi are all better players for barca. iniesta doesnt even start
Posted on 8/10/09 at 3:53 pm to hendersonshands
I would take a center midfield of Iniesta and Xavi over another combo currently in existence right now. Those crafty little frickers run nonstop, play great first-touch, and it is almost impossible to strip them of the ball.
Posted on 8/10/09 at 3:53 pm to crazy4lsu
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FWIW, Gerrard had 9 assists and Lampard had 10 assists this past season, while Iniesta had 8.
For comparison, Xavi, the other center mid for Barcelona, had 20.
If you go back in the thread, this has more or less been my argument the whole time.
Posted on 8/10/09 at 3:55 pm to UPT
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While I agree that Lampard is one of the top center mids...I sense bias on your part. Your thoughts?
Posted on 8/10/09 at 3:56 pm to crazy4lsu
The thing I value the most about central midfielders is holding on to the ball, I played center mid and my coach drilled into my head to never lose the ball. Basically Iniesta is the posterchild for how I was taught to play soccer. I would definitely take him over Fabregas but I can see taking Xavi.. having Xavi and Iniesta on the same team probably isn't fair.
Posted on 8/10/09 at 3:56 pm to IAmTheHatOnMilesHead
since i have no favourite team at the moment, i'm unbiased
i'm not saying iniesta is THE BEST IN THE WORLD, but he's certainly better than frank fricking lampard
i'm not saying iniesta is THE BEST IN THE WORLD, but he's certainly better than frank fricking lampard
Posted on 8/10/09 at 3:56 pm to Chicken
kaka
fernando torres
steven gerrard
alessandro nesta is still the best defender in world football IMHO
fernando torres
steven gerrard
alessandro nesta is still the best defender in world football IMHO
Posted on 8/10/09 at 3:56 pm to dgnx6
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etoo henry toure xavi are all better players for barca. iniesta doesnt even start
Eto'o is gonzo and when did Henry start playing midfield?
Posted on 8/10/09 at 3:56 pm to dgnx6
Eto'o doesn't even play for Barca anymore.
Posted on 8/10/09 at 3:57 pm to IAmTheHatOnMilesHead
Lampard is good.
He just catches hell for 1) playing for Chelsea 2) taking a lot of shots and 3) being kinda fat.
He has the benefit of having Drogba and Anelka playing in front, who use pace and horizontal runs to open up space for Lampard in the middle. You'll probably recall countless goals where he arrived late and knocked in easy one timers from the center 18 area. Not terribly skillful or novel, but damned efficient.
He just catches hell for 1) playing for Chelsea 2) taking a lot of shots and 3) being kinda fat.
He has the benefit of having Drogba and Anelka playing in front, who use pace and horizontal runs to open up space for Lampard in the middle. You'll probably recall countless goals where he arrived late and knocked in easy one timers from the center 18 area. Not terribly skillful or novel, but damned efficient.
This post was edited on 8/10/09 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 8/10/09 at 3:57 pm to S
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alessandro nesta is still the best defender in world football IMHO
fricking ageless wonder.
Posted on 8/10/09 at 3:58 pm to Keys Open Doors
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However, I would pick all of those guys over Fabregas.
Why is that? I admit his game isn't very strong defensively, but his distribution is world class.
Posted on 8/10/09 at 3:58 pm to hendersonshands
I guess an even better debate would be, would you rather start your team with Messi, Ronaldo, or Kaka.
Me personally, I'd take Messi.
Me personally, I'd take Messi.
Posted on 8/10/09 at 3:58 pm to hendersonshands
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Basically Iniesta is the posterchild for how I was taught
this is laughable too.. you learned to play soccer in the fricking states dude. iniesta doesnt start for barca or team spain so how the frick could he be better than xavi or fabregas? maybe this season will change my mind but until he sees more pt he is not on of the top midfielders in spain sorry.
Posted on 8/10/09 at 3:59 pm to Leauxgan
I've never liked Lampard, I knew people who overhyped him and I think it made me hate him. I am completely biased in any argument involving him, I won't apologize for it either. He isn't as good as Iniesta though.
Posted on 8/10/09 at 3:59 pm to Tiger n Austin
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I guess an even better debate would be, would you rather start your team with Messi, Ronaldo, or Kaka.
Me personally, I'd take Messi.
Messi...and it's really a no brainer because he's the youngest one and the best one of them all.
Worthless argument...next quetion.
Posted on 8/10/09 at 4:00 pm to dgnx6
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. iniesta doesnt start for barca or team spain so how the frick could he be better than xavi or fabregas?
He does start for Spain (at least he did in the Euro tourney)...he did not play in Confed Cup b/c he was hurt.
Posted on 8/10/09 at 4:00 pm to hendersonshands
i feel gay saying that 2 liverpool players are among the top 5 in the world but whatevz
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