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re: I stand with Gruden

Posted on 10/12/21 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 10/12/21 at 4:10 pm to
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I often wondered why nobody picked him up. He was not that bad of a qb when he started his shite.


He had been benched and replaced on the field. He did not like that one bit.
Posted by St Jean The Baptiste
Laredo, TX
Member since Aug 2015
5828 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 4:16 pm to
Since when is saying, “That Washington cheerleader has a nice arse” sexist?

Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
19439 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 4:17 pm to
A racist, a mysogynist, and a homophobe walked into a bar…..

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 4:21 pm to
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So it was Allen using his employer’s email not Gruden. Not sure why people keep mentioning how dumb and also unprofessional it was for Gruden to use his work email for these conversations.



Because they are dumb, uninformed and righteous in their indignation. So facts don't matter.
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
7222 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 4:24 pm to
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Is that really a mystery?

Guess I shouldn't make assumptions, but I'm just assuming it's the football-hating big pussy who tried to force Jeff Fisher to draft queers.


I like how you guys bitch about cancel culture and shite but I guarantee the majority wouldn't post what they post if your identity and place of employment were known.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 4:34 pm to
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thought these were just emails that Gruden sent to Bruce Allen @ Allen's Redskins' email address - and then acquired by the league in their investigation of the Redskins. And then leaked by Goodell.


new York times published the story.

do we know if it was Goodell leaked them?

seems like Goodell was sitting on this a long time.
Posted by Geaux Guy
Member since Dec 2018
6794 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 4:53 pm to
Like cheating on your girlfriend. Why live through all the crap. Just start over
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10521 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 5:21 pm to
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don't be obtuse, the guy has been out of the NFL since 2016 and it wasn't for his play only, there is no good football argument you can make to justify AJ McCarron replacing an injured Deshaun Watson in 2017


In 2014 fined for racial slur and later for wearing different brand headphones than allowed by league contract. He was also investigated for sexual assault. They didn’t make playoffs. Harbaugh Fired.

Halfway through 2015 season with new coach he lost starting job to Blaine Gabbert and then sat out rest of season with injured left shoulder while later expressing interest in trade.

In 2016 with another new coach in Chip Kelley after multiple surgeries, going vegan, and added political distractions pushed by new girlfriend CK lost starting QB job at start of season, gained starting job back in October, but still got benched at least once in a season with team winning only one of his starts in 2016. At the end of season 49ers brought in Shanahan who didn’t think CK was a fit. In spring of 2017 CK opted out of his contract becoming a free agent.

He wasn’t immediately canceled in 2016 and in fact was allowed to regain starting job nor was he ever actually canceled. You are using his past in 2012 and 2013 the last time he was part of a winning team and just assuming he would have still too good to pass up in 2017 and also cared as much about football to except backup role and money.

It was the money - starter versus backup role especially - with teams and CK, the offense, and the overall team fit on top of his declining performance, results, and attitude over prior 2 seasons and possibly 3 not to mention his girlfriend comparing one owner considering signing him to a slave owner that caused his issues in 2017 and continued afterwards.

In 2018 Seattle thought again about signing him and tried to set up workout and meeting, but he would not answer if he was going to continue his protest or not and workout never happened.

In 2019 CK was offered his own workout for entire league, but an half hour before he canceled and did his own workout elsewhere. He also asked for $20,000,000 guaranteed from XFL.

Throughout he was made to be a hero by the media and the left and given large contract by Nike. He makes more money with less work using the myth and legend than if he took backup money and role with risk he would never move past that.

So again when was he canceled (unless you are including that he canceled himself)?
This post was edited on 10/12/21 at 5:39 pm
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
27162 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 6:35 pm to
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frick the cancel culture pussies


I agree with this sentiment.

I bought a new Ford truck, the first I've had in 30 years, and some of my friends hated the truck, not because of the truck, but because it came with Goodyear tires.

It seems the last president we had got his feelings hurt and tried to cancel that company. frick jerks like that, I agree.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10521 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:08 pm to
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I bought a new Ford truck, the first I've had in 30 years, and some of my friends hated the truck, not because of the truck, but because it came with Goodyear tires.

It seems the last president we had got his feelings hurt and tried to cancel that company. frick jerks like that, I agree.



The Good year presentation slide shown at the plant did more than specifically include Trump campaign attire labeled as unacceptable while not including pictures Biden/Democratic campaign material as other examples of unacceptable. It also labeled Blue Lives Matter as unacceptable.

The audio along with presentation that was released later also oddly approved supporting what is just political messages for some due to zero tolerance. The blm and alphabet soup approved are basically political views if the one wearing isn’t black or an alphabet. Grouping them for anyone not only as allowed but saying allowed under zero tolerance while specifically excluding Blue Lives Matter in slide was a big issue.
“Some people may wish to express their views on social justice or inequity or equity issues such as black lives matter or LGBTQ pride on their face coverings, shirts or wristbands. That will be deemed approved because it applies with a zero-tolerance stance,” the speaker said during the meeting. “However if any associate wears all, blue, white lives matter shirts or face coverings, that will be not appropriate.”

They then said employee never got it approved and revised police support back in, clarified political part emphasizing both sides can’t be worn, and apologized for the confusion the presentation caused in both matters.

It was the kind of mixed up message that usually results in person giving it getting fired. It wasn’t just about a former president’s hurt feelings, but you have a nice truck after 30 years besides that added part about the tires and friends.

This post was edited on 10/12/21 at 8:25 pm
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
27162 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:51 am to
So the president then tried to cancel them because of that?

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