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i say screw david beckham

Posted on 2/5/09 at 2:04 am
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/5/09 at 2:04 am
Homeboy wants to stay at AC Milan, let him.


1) If you sell him, it will undoubtedly be the highest transfer the MLS has ever had.
2) It's a good thing that the MLS is selling their players to teams like AC Milan, Villarreal, Benfica, Manchester United, hopefully Bayern Munich, etc.
3) Beckham is a baby back bitch and didn't make his team better at all, so the Galaxy/MLS will benefit from his sell.
Posted by LSUlunatic
Member since Dec 2006
6833 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 2:50 am to
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2) It's a good thing that the MLS is selling their players to teams like AC Milan, Villarreal, Benfica, Manchester United, hopefully Bayern Munich, etc.


Wouldn't it be better if the MLS kept the talent instead of selling it? Or are you saying the more players that the MLS sells to those teams, the greater the number of quality American soccer players there will be ultimately be?
This post was edited on 2/5/09 at 2:51 am
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 2:53 am to
If you're selling players to those teams, that means you're putting out top notch talent. Players will see that other players that have gone the MLS route have ended up with the best teams in the world. It will only help the MLS's cause in attracting good young players.
Posted by Goose
Member since Jan 2005
22310 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 3:34 am to
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If you're selling players to those teams, that means you're putting out top notch talent.


As far as I knew, Beckham started at Man U... not exactly "putting out talent"

Nothing can help the MLS, it's a dead market here. There are only a handful of players in the MLS that could make it in Serie A, La Liga, or the EPL.

As far as whether or not Galaxy should keep Beckham, i think they should sell. Beckham only agreed to play for the Galaxy so Posh could Hollywood it up. Also with the possibility of Donovan staying in Bayern, the players he would be coming back to are subpar (they couldn't even make it through the playoffs with both). He will wilt and die in LA. In the Milan games since getting Becks, you can just tell he's a different player, and he is working well with Pato.

ETA: all of these not being reasons for LA to sell Becks

In the end, if they force him back. He'll play piss poor. It's a lose/lose. Take the money and try and buy a few Argentinians or Brazilians.
This post was edited on 2/5/09 at 3:49 am
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25249 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 7:29 am to
Gotta agree.
Beckham is in no way American nor can we claim any part of his skill.
Basically, he would NOT be on America's Mt. Rushmore.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138616 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 7:40 am to
what did becks do for U.S. Soccer?
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 7:43 am to
MLS isn't a dead market. It's doing quite well as a niche league. No one thinks soccer in Brazil is in trouble because all of their best players are in Europe. It would be silly to argue the same with the US. A high transfer fee would keep the league afloat and be a good financial decision. Also, the MLS loses credibility if it prevents its top players from moving on to the top leagues.

I also don't think Beckham has really been all that great. For a great player, he certainly didn't light up MLS, and the Galaxy were among the worst teams in the league despite his presence.

MLS is never gonna be the EPL. But it is a respectable second tier league, and those leagues make their bones selling their top players to Europe.
Posted by keeper007
Austin
Member since Feb 2008
1511 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 7:59 am to
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If you're selling players to those teams, that means you're putting out top notch talent. Players will see that other players that have gone the MLS route have ended up with the best teams in the world. It will only help the MLS's cause in attracting good young players.


I'm quite sure we didn't do anything to develop Beckham, hence his move to Milan. He fits in Ancelotti's system and is playing the best soccer in the world in preparation for 2010. We need to keep players like him, Ljunberg, Blanco, etc to help develop our young players. Our best young players then need to go overseas and train with the best teams (Donovan ) so they can lead our national teams past embarassment at the WC.
Posted by LSUMJ
BR
Member since Sep 2004
20808 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 8:43 am to
"Nothing can help the MLS, it's a dead market here"

MLS is doing just fine. expansion team in seattle this season, in philadelphia next season, and 1 or 2 more three seasons from now (a 2nd NY team, florida or another canadian team)
Posted by Leauxgan
Brooklyn
Member since Nov 2005
17324 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 9:08 am to
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MLS is doing just fine


It's amazing how many buttfrickingly retarded people (Zach; LSUgrasshopper) on this site will argue that point without knowing jackshit about the sport or its franchise.
Posted by CrazyTigerFan
Member since Nov 2003
3630 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 9:22 am to
Why did he wind up in MLS at Galaxy in the first place with his world-beating talent? Oh, that's right, because he was benched at Real Madrid.

Let him go, but obtain an appropriate transfer fee. Convert the current ~$6 million offer to pounds or euros and you'll see that it's laughable. Hell, the league was offered $6 million from Darby for Eddie Johnson before he eventually went elsewhere. Is Beckham on the same level as Johnson? AC Milan can take that bush league shite out of here and come back to the table when they're serious.
Posted by JoeBobRuby
Member since Sep 2005
5949 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 10:49 am to
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because he was benched at Real Madrid.



great players are benched all the time in europe

he still has world class talent and would positively impact A LOT of good teams in europe

but I agree, they should let him go after negotiating a very high transfer fee.
Posted by keeper007
Austin
Member since Feb 2008
1511 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 10:56 am to
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because he was benched at Real Madrid.


He was benched because he said he was leaving for LA. Capello benched him and said he would never play because he was leaving for LA after signing with the MLS.
Posted by dragan
baton rouge
Member since Nov 2008
38 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 11:10 am to
he wasn't on the bench for very long either.
real madrid also tried to keep him at the end of the season, but the galaxy told them to frick off
This post was edited on 2/5/09 at 11:12 am
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:14 pm to
I never said we developed him, I said we're putting out our players into top leagues. Beckham is an MLS player.
Posted by StTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3195 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:32 pm to
MLS had a chance to become bigger, thats what they tried to do with beckham

the problem is that he went to the wrong team, I say he should've gone to a team that was winning, NY Red Bulls (who at the time, were the better team), where he would've made a more visible difference because he would've been winning, and he named his kid brooklyn, seemed a better fit for him, but I guess his plastic doll preferred the sun and (more) cameras(who knew?)

galaxy sucks, beckham wants to return to topflight, so the MLS experiment failed, america is in no way as excited about the MLS as they were when he first arrived


and personally (IMO) the MLS has other problems that it needs to get straight, like the two conferences IMO, I don't like them


I say one table, winner is MLS champs, and not the team that was shite all year just to come in and catch the best team on an off night and win the title, then have your tournaments

and you probably want to say, hey that's exactly the type of system the have....everywhere else (excluding south/central america), america is far too in love with conferences (IMO)
This post was edited on 2/5/09 at 5:33 pm
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25249 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

Beckham is an MLS player.

While true, I don't agree with the angle.


Beckham didn't necessarily care to go out of his way to get into the MLS. He was paid an obscene amount of money(and is already looking to get out).
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24474 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 5:46 pm to
i believe they have conferences because of the travel

no other domestic leagues deal with a country of our size with teams as spread out

it's one of the biggest reasons why MLS will always be different from the rest
Posted by StTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3195 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 8:03 pm to
makes sense, but I still don't like it

I just don't like the playoff system/conferences and how the top team throughout the season gets nothing

if they just fixed that then I wouldn't bitching (as much) right now
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24474 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 8:05 pm to
i agree completely, think in a sport where everyone plays one another home and away...then that should decide everything.

the playoffs are just because it's in America, and it makes money. Still dumb.
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