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re: How was that not targeting on Miami.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:57 pm to KosmoCramer
Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:57 pm to KosmoCramer
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Forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless player doesn't require launching
Nah, incidental. good no call
Posted on 12/20/25 at 2:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Nah, incidental. good no call
It doesn't matter if it was incidental.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:02 pm to KosmoCramer
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If the player leaves their feet to launch themselves at an opponent
If the player crouches before making a tackle to create maximum force
If the player leads with their helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact the head or neck area of an opposing player
If the player lowers their head before making a tackle and makes forcible contact with the crown of the helmet
A replay must confirm targeting. A targeting call is upheld if a player leads with the crown of their helmet regardless if a player is defenseless.
Good no call.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Post the entire rule, doofus.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:04 pm to KosmoCramer
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Post the entire rule, doofus.
I posted enough, bitch.
But its not going to stop you from whining.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:04 pm to ItTakesAThief
Well the roughing the passer was soft as shite so it evened out, even though I think it was a good no call.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I posted enough, bitch.
But its not going to stop you from whining.
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No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6). (A.R. 9-1-4-I-VI)
Note 1: "Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:
Launch-a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet
Note 2: Defenseless player (Rule 2-27-14). When in question, a player is defenseless. Examples of defenseless players include but are not limited to:
A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass.
A receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier.
I hate targeting. This was clearly targeting. If the rule is in the books, it needs to be enforced equally no matter the moment of the game.

This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:14 pm to KosmoCramer
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player shall target and make forcible contact
Incidental.
The last thing anyone wants is a ref deciding a game on a marginal call. Earlier, no one gives a shite.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Was it forcible or not? Did he make direct contact to the head or not? Was it a defenseless player or not?
Incidental doesn't matter.
You're better than this.
Incidental doesn't matter.
You're better than this.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:17 pm to McCaigBro69
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I didn’t think he ‘launched’
What does "launched" even mean? That the player planted both of his feet and drove his body weight into a tackle? If so every damn tackle aside from a db on his heels getting ran over by a loose rb is guilty of that.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:19 pm to KosmoCramer
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Incidental doesn't matter.
Yes, it does.
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In the context of NCAA football, incidental head-to-head targeting is not considered targeting. The NCAA's targeting rule prohibits forcible contact against an opponent that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the bal
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:20 pm to ItTakesAThief
Is this the thread where SEC fans whine about a call that wasn't made because it wasn't a penalty?
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yes, it does.
Where does the rule say that?
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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In the context of NCAA football, incidental head-to-head targeting is not considered targeting. The NCAA's targeting rule prohibits forcible contact against an opponent that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the bal
Is that from an NCAA casebook or a random AI interpretation?
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:32 pm to KosmoCramer
There are hundreds of sources if you do 5 minutes or research.
LINK
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Many football officials that work on Friday nights and youth games hear at least once per game from the sidelines or the stands, “That was helmet-to-helmet contact!!” Although the football rulesmakers continue to try to reduce head contact, incidental helmet collisions still happen. Therefore, the NCAA has incorporated the targeting indicator to minimize attacks on the head and neck areas of players while still allowing for incidental helmet-to-helmet contact to occur. There is no penalty for helmet-to-helmet contact, even on a defenseless player, unless this indicator exists.
LINK
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
This is the indicator by rule:
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Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:34 pm to KosmoCramer
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Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
Forcible vs incidental, which is allowed.
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Forcible vs incidental, which is absolutely allowed.
It doesn't matter if it's incidental. The rule doesnt make that distinction.
You're 100% wrong; it's ok to chalk this one up to a loss.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:37 pm to KosmoCramer
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It doesn't matter if it's incidental.
Yes, it does no matter how many times you claim it isnt.
Youre more than welcome to do your own research
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yes, it does no matter how many times you claim it isnt.
Point to the rule that makes that distinction. It clearly doesn't. You would quote the actual rule if it helped your argument. And there's a reason you only posted half the rule earlier.
If the primary contact is to the head or neck area of a defenseless player, it's targeting.
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