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re: How often can a 12 yo practice baseball long-toss

Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:07 am to
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:07 am to
Every single day is fine as long as he works up to longer distances slowly and doesn't try to be a hero.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:08 am to
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When they throw 70 mph!!


From 60 feet?
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:12 am to
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You have to be very careful at that age especially if your son is big for his age as a lot of times his ligaments, joints and growth plates are behind in development and it is very easy to injure a young ballplayer.


This is very true and not just for throwing. Knees and feet are affected also. I know some kids that are battling inflammed growth plates now.

I only asked about long toss because between lessons, practice x2 a week and our individual workouts, I didn't want to tax his arm. If it was up to him, we would long toss everyday.
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:14 am to
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From 60 feet?


No, He is 12U and we are at 50/70. 13U goes to 60/90, but 70 at 50 feet is moving.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:16 am to
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. If it was up to him, we would long toss everyday.


I think that the guys with the strongest arms probably threw everyday.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:29 pm to
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Even better for strengthining an arm is letting them throw a football all day.






had a couple of pretty well known docs and PTs say just the opposite...
This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:36 pm to
If a pitcher, should be long-tossing second day after pitching to stretch out and re-tear the muscles. I'd say 2-3 times a week depending on workload. Run a ton too (sprints, 3/4 speed sprints, and a little distance). Legs are almost more important than arms.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:38 pm to
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Pitching coach clocked him.

So he has a pitching coach that can't set a throwing schedule for him? You must be an easy mark.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:39 pm to
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I bought him the regulation pee-wee ball last year for when he starts next year.



If you put your son into football knowing what we know about brain injuries, you're a bad parent.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:43 pm to
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Legs are almost more important than arms.



Conditioning is... as soon as they become fatigued, mechanics break down.. once this happens injuries are more likely.

the other thing is...

if a kid is a Pitcher and a valuable cog in the defense, they are throwing much more than others on their teams...

x reps at 3b, x reps at SS or CF.. then pitching and bullpens...etc.

some of the best things that improve arm strength have absolutely nothing to do with throwing anything.

This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:48 pm to
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as soon as they become fatigued, mechanics break down.


Probably the #1 cause of pitching related injuries, and why people go on pitch counts.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:50 pm to
Pretty common now honestly. Nephew started working with pitching coach at 8. Makes perfect sense to start with proper fundamentals from the beginning instead of developing bad habits that have to be broken.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:52 pm to
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had a couple of pretty well known docs and PTs say just the opposite...


Yeh well what do they know

If you want a kid to have a strong arm the best thing is for him to throw a lot(not pitching).

Everyone thinks pitchers have the strongest arms but in most cases its SS, 3rd, and catchers that have the strongest arms. I think from throwing the ball long distances.
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:53 pm to
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So he has a pitching coach that can't set a throwing schedule for him? You must be an easy mark


I want him to learn how to properly train and use his arm. I put him in lessons to learn proper throwing mechanics. The pitching was a surprise. He is really a hitter, but now through hard work, he has become a pretty good pitcher.


Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
32861 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:55 pm to
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Everyone thinks pitchers have the strongest arms but in most cases its SS, 3rd, and catchers that have the strongest arms. I think from throwing the ball long distances.


usually the best athletes on the team.. and the bigger kids with the wait for it...


strongest legs...
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:02 pm to
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usually the best athletes on the team


yeh but they are usually the best b/c they throw all the time. I doubt they only throw a ball 2-3x a week.

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strongest legs...


I have seen people with incredible leg strength that had weak arms.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31145 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:02 pm to
I big arse is a pitcher's best friend
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
32861 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:23 pm to
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How often can a 12 yo practice baseball long-toss
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usually the best athletes on the team


yeh but they are usually the best b/c they throw all the time. I doubt they only throw a ball 2-3x a week.

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strongest legs...


I have seen people with incredible leg strength that had weak arms.




Can count on one hand the people I have seen with live arms and poor leg strngth
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