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re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton?
Posted on 12/31/12 at 7:34 am to Sophandros
Posted on 12/31/12 at 7:34 am to Sophandros
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That said, if I were starting a team today and had to pick between Cam and RG3 as my QB, I'd probably flip a coin.
I wouldn't. I don't think Cam will ever be consistently good. I think RG3 will be something special.
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 7:35 am to TH03
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Hence, the intangibles, things you can't measure by a stat.
Ah, the myth of intangibles.
If intangibles do exist, not one of us know how to assess those intangibles from our couch, that i know for certain.
Posted on 12/31/12 at 7:38 am to TT9
quote:barry Bonds's homeruns went a long way too, how was his attitude?
a lot, attitude goes a long way.
A whole lot of all time greats have shite attitudes. It's meaningless if you produce.
Posted on 12/31/12 at 7:51 am to shel311
How good would RG3 be with Rivera as HC versus how good would Cam be with Shanahan is the answer to the question
This post was edited on 12/31/12 at 8:33 am
Posted on 12/31/12 at 8:06 am to undecided
No way Cam would survive the pressure cooker of the DC media, too moody and dramatic.
Posted on 12/31/12 at 8:11 am to shel311
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barry Bonds's homeruns went a long way too, how was his attitude?
Are you seriously trying to compare the position of an NFL QB to an outfielder?
Posted on 12/31/12 at 8:32 am to Rickety Cricket
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No way Cam would survive the pressure cooker of the DC media, too moody and dramatic.
The question wasn't who would perform better in which media market but how the players would perform under the respective coaches.
Cam would dominate under the Shanahan's and would probably benefit from their autocratic ways while RG3 would be considered a bust on a Rivera/Chud team. RG3 is a system quarterback while I think Cam is more flexible
This post was edited on 12/31/12 at 8:33 am
Posted on 12/31/12 at 8:36 am to Patrick O Rly
quote:I think he was.
Are you seriously trying to compare the position of an NFL QB to an outfielder
maybe he can name us an NFL QB that has ever won anything with a selfish, me first attitude.
Posted on 12/31/12 at 8:36 am to undecided
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RG3 is a system quarterback
Posted on 12/31/12 at 8:38 am to hg
I love RG3s throwing....i still remember how pinpoint accurate he was on Thanksgiving.
As for Personality....him over Cam, easily.
As for Personality....him over Cam, easily.
Posted on 12/31/12 at 8:45 am to SpartyGator
RG3 is a little better right now but long term I'll take Cam over anybody
Posted on 12/31/12 at 9:09 am to VerlanderBEAST
Posted on 12/31/12 at 9:13 am to undecided
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Cam would dominate under the Shanahan's and would probably benefit from their autocratic ways while RG3 would be considered a bust on a Rivera/Chud team.
Cam can't play under a good coach, but play's great under bad coaches. He could not conform to Urban's rules but thrived under Chizit's lack of rules. Of course this is all rumors. No one will ever say Chizit is in the same coaching class as Urban and the same can be said about Rivera compared to Shanahan. Thus under Shanahan Cam is a bust and kicked off or let go by year 3. RG3 can play great for any coach because as the ESPN guy implyed RG3 is not POS Thug because he is all about the Team not the "I".
Posted on 12/31/12 at 9:19 am to Ortho Reb
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Is he banned?
Yeah, the Auburn fans got their panties in a wad when he posted about wanted Cam to get hurt and so they cried about it on the help board
Posted on 12/31/12 at 9:21 am to Born to be a Tiger
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Cam can't play under a good coach, but play's great under bad coaches. He could not conform to Urban's rules but thrived under Chizit's lack of rules. Of course this is all rumors.
You mean Urban "It's Time to Die Bitch" Meyer? Do we need to compare the arrest record of Meyer and Chizik and then have a discussion on who ran the more disciplined program? The media gave Meyer a pass because he won but Gainsville was a mess during and after his tenure
That RG3 is a great QB is not up for debate. However, I think Cam has more durability and would thrive on any of the 32 NFL teams while RG3 needs a specific scheme and supporting cast to endure an entire NFL season.
This post was edited on 12/31/12 at 9:23 am
Posted on 12/31/12 at 9:34 am to Patrick O Rly
quote:attitude is pointless if you're good.
Are you seriously trying to compare the position of an NFL QB to an outfielder?
Ask any player the hypothetical, if they would prefer an average player with a great attitude, or an elite player with a questionable attitude, i wonder what the answer would be.
Let me ask you, tebow or Cam? Remember, attitude!!
Posted on 12/31/12 at 9:36 am to Born to be a Tiger
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Cam can't play under a good coach
Posted on 12/31/12 at 9:38 am to TT9
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maybe he can name us an NFL QB that has ever won anything with a selfish, me first attitude.
Brett Favre's me first attitude is about 1 billion times worse than any evidence you have of Cam's me first attitue, and it's not even remotely close. These boards destroyed him for being selfish for years.
I said an attitude, don't add all these other words and make it like their mine, that's foolish.
Not sure how old you are, but Dan Marino used to absolutely destroy Duper and Clayton. If he did what he did in today's media, you can bet your arse he would be thought of just like Newton.
Let me guess, you'll say that is why Marino never won a title?
This post was edited on 12/31/12 at 9:43 am
Posted on 12/31/12 at 9:59 am to shel311
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attitude is pointless if you're good.
Not if you're a QB. Even the great ones have bad games/streaks. Their attitude during the hard times goes a long way in determining if their teammates rally around them or not.
Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:01 am to Patrick O Rly
quote:The Cam bashing was at it's absolute worst around the middle of the season when Carolina was 3-9 or some shite.
Their attitude during the hard times goes a long way in determining if their teammates rally around them or not.
Did you see how they finished up? Kinda seems like the team rallied around him, no?
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