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re: How many teams in history could lose their best player & still be the best team?
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:29 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:29 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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Need I say more
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:30 pm to tzimme4
They are gonna win the sb without him. How is gronk the best player?
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:30 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
1998 Tennessee Vols
No Peyton Manning. Some no name Tee Martin guy comes in and wins it all. 13-0
No Peyton Manning. Some no name Tee Martin guy comes in and wins it all. 13-0
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:30 pm to Tigerfan56
Pre National title game; whoever Bama's best player is. Jonathan Allen?
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:31 pm to Winston Cup
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They are gonna win the sb without him. How is gronk the best player?
Isn't that OP's original question?
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:31 pm to TheWalrus
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Those Celtics teams would have won a bunch of titles without Russell. Not 11, but at least 3 or 4
Russell BARELY beat Chamberlaine. there were mighty tussles at the rim with the game on the line.
no Russell, Warriors win all those series.
Russell and Cousy were winning before Chamberlain graduated high school though.
1958 St Louis Hawks with Bob Petit and Cliff Hagan won one during Russell era.
(Hagan multi year all star, (2nd best player on a mighty Kentucky team. )
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:31 pm to tzimme4
Well since Gronk isn't the best player on the Patriots, it doesn't really fit the OP's question, does it?
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:32 pm to tzimme4
I don't know, i usually shite post
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:34 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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Well since Gronk isn't the best player on the Patriots
Well that's your opinion. I don't see any other elite Patriots players on the cover of the NFL's #1 game
This post was edited on 1/18/17 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:34 pm to tzimme4
We call those facts around here.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:37 pm to lsupride87
I disagree. 93 was the year the Suns won 60 and despite losing in 6 gave Chicago everything they could handle. They would not be favorites without MJ over that very same team
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:49 pm to TDawg1313
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Rodriguez left the Mariners in 2000. In 2001 the Mariners set the all-time wins record with 116 wins, then proceed
This is what I was thinking. The Mariners lost a hall of fame player in 1998, 1999, and 2000. After each departure they finished the following season better than the season before. 2001 was the only version that was best in the league though
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:57 pm to CelticDog
That's such an empty statement. Warriors would have won ALL of them. How come the Warriors with Wilt lost in the playoffs to teams that were nowhere near as good on paper as the Celts minus Russell?
Posted on 1/18/17 at 11:09 pm to Winston Cup
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Doug Williams
Nice to see that he is back with the Redskins in the front office.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 11:19 pm to DannyB
Ohio State lost a top five Heisman vote getter at QB in 2014 and won a national title.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 11:24 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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Well since Gronk isn't the best player on the Patriots, it doesn't really fit the OP's question, does it?
You could argue that gronk is the best player on the team but he isn't at the most important position. Larry Allen was probably the best player on a couple of the cowboys teams but he played offensive guard.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 11:32 pm to Paul Allen
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1998 Tennessee Vols
No Peyton Manning. Some no name Tee Martin guy comes in and wins it all. 13-0
Tee wasn't a no-name, but this is still a great example. They lost a lot of players besides Peyton as well. And Jamal Lewis went out for the season early with a torn ACL.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 11:58 pm to Tigerfan56
quote:No way they'd be the favorites. They aren't any more favored than LeDouche's team right now. I'd probably give Cleveland the advantage now. Warriors lack interior defense.
I think even if the Warriors lost KD or Steph, they would be favorites to win it all. I
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