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re: How many championships did the Lakers give up by letting LBJ run shite

Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:15 am to
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:15 am to
Where's LeBron?
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:29 am to
That is the roster that was there before LeGM signed there.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11795 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:32 am to
This is such an ignorant argument lol.

Let’s say pelicans win two in the next five years, supported by assets that they got from the trade? Who won the trade?

People who judge are trade and call it a day after one year are just too simple minded to be able to think long term about the big picture. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that those same people are lakers fans lol
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11795 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:36 am to
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I think it is undeniable that the Pelicans got a good return for AD. The Lakers also got a title that they wouldn’t have got without AD, though. I see what you’re saying. I just don’t know how a team that makes a trade to win a title that they otherwise would not have, makes them a loser in the trade.


If you asked whoever was in charge of making this trade for the lakers:

Will you be ok if you make this trade, and you get one championship in a bubble year, then you completely implode, and will be giving away some pretty high value draft picks, and have a roster in shambles with really no way to get it back right for several years

I guarantee you they would not do the trade as is. Which tells you they wouldn’t feel good about the trade. They didn’t make that trade to get one title and become irrelevant. They made that trade TO BECOME ANOTHER DYNASTY AND WIN 2/3 out of the next 5. You’re being dishonest if you don’t admit that was the goal.

But again. Keep being small minded and short sighted.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15758 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:45 am to
And then LBJ signed on to play with that roster... if they didn't trade all of those guys/picks and kept that core with Lebron, you don't think the Lakers are maybe 1 less title right now, but would have been contenders last year and certainly this year?
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 10:17 am to
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They made that trade TO BECOME ANOTHER DYNASTY AND WIN 2/3 out of the next 5. You’re being dishonest if you don’t admit that was the goal. But again. Keep being small minded and short sighted.


Sure, they probably wanted to become a dynasty. Just like everyone else would want to.

To act like anything less than 2-3 titles in 5 years is a failure is silly. They had a 34-35 year old Lebron. Peak Lebron never won 3 titles in 5 years. The standard wasn’t 2-3 titles in 5 years.

I’m sure they would’ve liked to be more successful, but 1 title would mean they accomplished the minimum acceptable return on the trade.

But sure it’s a failure if you create an arbitrary and unrealistically high bar that they would have had to clear in order for this to be defined as “successful” by you.
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 10:22 am to
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Nobody will treat that ring seriously. In the nba not all rings are equal.



Not all rings are equal, but it's in the record books and it tied Boston for ring count.
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 10:23 am to
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Let’s say pelicans win two in the next five years, supported by assets that they got from the trade? Who won the trade?



If the Pelicans really win two championships with this nucleus ever then they won the trade. Winning a championship is hard.
Posted by longhorn22
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 2:01 pm to
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Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7307 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:54 pm to
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LAL gave up WAY too many assets for AD, a guy who LITERALLY tanked any deal to a team other than LAL. They were a team without competition for AD in a trade and paid like they had to beat 4-5 teams. That's the issue.


Ding, ding, ding
If the Lakers hadn't been in such a damn rush to make that deal, they could have waited until the trade deadline when the Pelicans would have been desperate to get anything for AD. Maybe they could have kept Ingram and some of those draft picks.
Posted by CovingtonTigre
In your head Werder
Member since Mar 2021
1292 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 11:17 pm to
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They already had LeBron... You don't think LeBron and that young core would be competing for multiple titles


Cubsfan#,

Letting lebron have power in personnel was part of the deal of getting him.
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