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re: How can McQueary live with himself
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:09 am to Chad504boy
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:09 am to Chad504boy
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You better stick to meaningless ramble cause i'll crush you if you actual want to discuss facts and issues.
lol
Everyone knows your the biggest joke on this entire site, dude. Your little "schtick" got old months ago..quit back-peddling when people call you out on it. You're a sick frick that needs to go away.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:10 am to tigerfan88
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My "argument" is about the people equating McQueary to Sandusky it's just absurd. And everyone here who say's they'd 100% without a doubt physically intervene in a situation like that...i hope you never are in a situation like that. But if you are i pray to god you do do something
Every single rape that happened after that situation could have been stopped if McQuery had done something. Whether its beat him to a pulp go to the police whatever. Instead Mcquery did essentially nothing and most likely was put on a fast track because of that. He profited off kids being raped. By not doing anything he was basically driving kids and dropping them off at that despicable mans house. Everyone involved in this is evil pure evil. A man was using a childrens charity as a means to fuel his despicable habit and they did nothing. There are few things if anything that can be lower than that.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:11 am to Tigerbait337
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lol
Everyone knows your the biggest joke on this entire site, dude. Your little "schtick" got old months ago..quit back-peddling when people call you out on it. You're a sick frick that needs to go away.
Let me know when you actually want to discuss an issue. You're still rambling. And everyone knows how the 90/10 ratio goes in the world. 90% are fricking ignorant, hypocritical, naive, high horse riding, stupid arse retards.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:13 am to Chad504boy
The only issue is that you brought up the question, what if the kid was enjoying it?
Want to talk about a hypocrite?
If you're in a damn court room, and a lawyer ask your daughter or a witness if your kid was enjoying it, would you stay calm?
Want to talk about a hypocrite?
If you're in a damn court room, and a lawyer ask your daughter or a witness if your kid was enjoying it, would you stay calm?
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:15 am to Tigerbait337
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what if the kid was enjoying it?
never asked if he was enjoying it. I was asking if it was basically consensual in nature. Pretty pertinent to the discussion of what McQueary witnessed.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:17 am to Chad504boy
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I was asking if it was basically consensual in nature. Pretty pertinent to the discussion of what McQueary witnessed.
No it damn well isnt. You are a sick person. Think about what you just said.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:28 am to Adam Banks
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No it damn well isnt. You are a sick person. Think about what you just said.
It is actually whether you like it or not.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:39 am to Chad504boy
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It is actually whether you like it or not.
frick NO IT ISNT. A ten year old CAN NOT CONSENT. IT CANNOT BE CONSENSUAL IN NATURE. THEY DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHY THIS PERSON THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO LISTEN AND OBEY TO IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THEM! How does your twisted mind not understand that?
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:42 am to Adam Banks
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frick NO IT ISNT. A ten year old CAN NOT CONSENT. IT CANNOT BE CONSENSUAL IN NATURE. THEY DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHY THIS PERSON THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO LISTEN AND OBEY TO IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THEM! How does your twisted mind not understand that?
Dude I get all that. Honestly I do. Getting past that, I don't understand the full legal system but I think sometimes they do distinguish between aggravated rape and statutory rape... not sure.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:43 am to Chad504boy
Would you clowns lay off of Chad? If you people had any reading comprehension at all, you would have seen that Chad said it doesn't make it any more or less apprehensible if the kid was resisting it. He was just asking a mere question of fact to get a better idea of what happened.
Obviously, a sexually assault of a 10 year old boy can not be defended. But should it not even be investigated whether the boy was forcefully raped, conned by an older man in a position of power, or touched inappropriately with his clothes still on? All 3 of those are still disgusting actions and I think Chad knows that. He was just asking what the actual facts are because when you are discussing matters of fact, the facts are what matters. Until then, it's just unsubstantiated conjecture.
Speedy is the real worthless POS. He had the gaul to call Chad out for asking a question of fact, but was then found to have called an 11 year old girl who was raped a whore in another thread. That is pathetic, Speedy.
And I am not one to stick up for Chad. We have butted heads once in another thread. But he has done nothing wrong in this thread.
Obviously, a sexually assault of a 10 year old boy can not be defended. But should it not even be investigated whether the boy was forcefully raped, conned by an older man in a position of power, or touched inappropriately with his clothes still on? All 3 of those are still disgusting actions and I think Chad knows that. He was just asking what the actual facts are because when you are discussing matters of fact, the facts are what matters. Until then, it's just unsubstantiated conjecture.
Speedy is the real worthless POS. He had the gaul to call Chad out for asking a question of fact, but was then found to have called an 11 year old girl who was raped a whore in another thread. That is pathetic, Speedy.
And I am not one to stick up for Chad. We have butted heads once in another thread. But he has done nothing wrong in this thread.
This post was edited on 11/8/11 at 11:48 am
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:48 am to Tigerbait337
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The only issue is that you brought up the question, what if the kid was enjoying it?
Stop being an idiot. He didn't ask if the kid was enjoying it. He asked if it was consensual.
At no point did he say it being consensual would be any more excusable. Everyone is just so eager to pit themselves in an argument against the "condoner of child abuse" that they are straw-manning his question into him asking if the kid had what was coming for him.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:50 am to Chad504boy
Chad, the reaction should be the same by the adult whether or not the kid was fighting or enjoying it.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 12:12 pm to hendersonshands
The McQueary guy will live with this the rest of life and will always wonder why he didnt do more. How can you all honestly say you would have done something different walking in on that situation. We have been able to read this crap for 4 days and our minds are ready to react to this situation. Imagine walking in on this without any prior knowledge of this sort of crap going on behind the scenes. How would you have processed it? It can take the mind some time to process horror like this.
The complete and utter failure came after he told Joe Pa about the incident. It should have gone defcon 5 that day. I cant believe they scheduled meetings weeks later to talk. When an incident like this occurs you clear your calendar, get the authorities involved and get everyone on alert.
The complete and utter failure came after he told Joe Pa about the incident. It should have gone defcon 5 that day. I cant believe they scheduled meetings weeks later to talk. When an incident like this occurs you clear your calendar, get the authorities involved and get everyone on alert.
This post was edited on 11/8/11 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 11/8/11 at 12:20 pm to Hot Carl
basically if you see a boy getting nailed in the shower the protocol is....
a) if he seems to be enjoying it wait for the old man to finish up and then pull him aside and say "hey its totally not cool to bang little boys man. I get he was totally asking for it, but not cool man"
b) if there's a struggle then you need to step in immediately.
a) if he seems to be enjoying it wait for the old man to finish up and then pull him aside and say "hey its totally not cool to bang little boys man. I get he was totally asking for it, but not cool man"
b) if there's a struggle then you need to step in immediately.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 12:58 pm to WDE24
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He then saw the rapist around the campus and football program for years, even saw him bring kids to practice and knew he ran a football camp for boys, and did nothing about it
I don't know how players could stomach taking coaching from this coward.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 12:58 pm to hendersonshands
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Chad, the reaction should be the same by the adult whether or not the kid was fighting or enjoying it.
The only acceptable response to what Chad said in here.
I get what Chad was trying to say even thought it was pointless and unnecessarily controversial (how the frick do we know what the kid's reaction was?).
However, asking the question in reference to McQueary's response is missing the point by miles.
I'd rather have an angry 10 yr old on my hands (in the absolutely absurd situation that it was 'consensual') than just continue to allow something like that to happen.
For some reason I have more questions about McQueary than anyone else in this scenario. I honestly think he should go to jail for a long time.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:12 pm to LfcSU3520
he really does look like a complete shite bag in all of this and I'm not sure why he isn't being called out more. He may very well have put a stop to it and was told by PSU officials to sing a different tune
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:17 pm to BilJ
Good point. He could've been telling anyone who would've listen, only to be told to shut up... Including the police.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:51 pm to AUCE05
EVEN if all of that were true, I don't have one ounce of sympathy for him. Not one.
This guy's job is to go into others' houses and tell parents why they should trust their sons going to PSU. All the while he'd be doing that knowing that a man who was capable of raping another family's 10 year old son had full access to the program and nothing was being done about it.
It's shockingly disgusting when you really stop to think about it.
This guy's job is to go into others' houses and tell parents why they should trust their sons going to PSU. All the while he'd be doing that knowing that a man who was capable of raping another family's 10 year old son had full access to the program and nothing was being done about it.
It's shockingly disgusting when you really stop to think about it.
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