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re: How can anyone hate Lebron James after tonight?

Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:25 am to
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
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Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:25 am to
While I think its dumb to say he is the goat before he has even gone through his peak years, I also think its dumb to completely dismiss how good he is. A lot of people really undervalue his game as a whole. It's hard to measure the impact he has on defense and what he brings on offense as a whole.

I do think he very well may be the greatest all-around player when its all said and done. With that said, players like MJ are much better at certain things (scoring/shooting as an example) that may outweigh the other categories that Lebron is better at. The fact of the matter is that when its crunch time, you need a scorer and I don't think Lebron will ever get on the same level as the great scorers.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126587 posts
Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:25 am to
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If I'd just won an NBA championship and MVP, I'd be doing a whole lot worse


drinking fricking bitchs and blow baby
Posted by gallagherkck
Member since Nov 2009
3243 posts
Posted on 6/22/12 at 11:25 am to
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While Dwade is off celebrating with the crowd, LBJ goes directly to the Thunder players and bear hugs everyone of them. Then hugs his mama, and then asks where his fiance is. Then gets on national television and talks about how immature he was last year and how he got back to loving the game and doing what needed to be done. Doesn't get much better than that.


It was a classy move, indeed. I believe KD and someone else began walking toward the Heat bench with about 15 seconds left to play, but LBJ hugged about 6 or 7 players from what I saw of the post-game.

I still dislike the pomp and circumstance during The Decision and the new Heat players introduction in 2010, but last night did help to begin the mending process in the public's eye.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10849 posts
Posted on 6/22/12 at 12:22 pm to
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MJ is a clearly superior player.


bullshite! LeBron is a much better passer, rebounder and the most versatile defender in the history of the NBA.

Jordan has a higher career scoring average (30.1) than LeBron but that's about it. And whether Jordan is actually a more prolific scorer than LeBron is debatable. Jordan took more shots per game (22.9) than LeBron (20.4) and far fewer 3 point attempts per game (1.7) than LeBron (4.0) yet his shooting percentage (.497) is only slighlty better than LeBron (.483). That being said, LeBron scores 1.355 points per FG attempt compared to 1.316 for Jordan - that's a difference of almost 30%!! I won't even get into how much harder it has been for LeBron with the lack of a supporting cast and the constant double teams he endured in his first 7 seasons and coming into league without the 3 years of playing in the ACC that Jordan brought with him.



Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
40522 posts
Posted on 6/22/12 at 12:27 pm to
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MJ is a clearly superior player.
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bullshite!

this deserves 2 gifs....
This post was edited on 6/22/12 at 12:28 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112623 posts
Posted on 6/22/12 at 1:12 pm to
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LBJ goes directly to the Thunder players and bear hugs everyone of them. Then hugs his mama, and then asks where his fiance is. Then gets on national television and talks about how immature he was last year and how he got back to loving the game and doing what needed to be done.


But so many guys on here will tell you how selfish he is.
Posted by Will20
Somewhere
Member since Jul 2008
436 posts
Posted on 6/22/12 at 8:20 pm to
What doesn't make any sense to me is that the dumbasses who hate him because they think he is egotistical and a douche, LOVE Michael Jordan. That blows my mind.
Posted by tigerblood29
Member since Sep 2009
3062 posts
Posted on 6/22/12 at 8:22 pm to
please never post again if you think James is now or ever will be better than Jordan
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52214 posts
Posted on 6/22/12 at 8:27 pm to
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What doesn't make any sense to me is that the dumbasses who hate him because they think he is egotistical and a douche, LOVE Michael Jordan. That blows my mind.


so true. Jordan was a huge a-hole. When you're that good you can be a dick and nobody can really tell you anything. Lebron will not reach the career achievements of a jordan but their talent level is a lot closer than most will admit.
Posted by tigerblood29
Member since Sep 2009
3062 posts
Posted on 6/22/12 at 8:30 pm to
I think the biggest difference in them is mentally,Jordan didn't give a frick if evrybody hated him.He just beat your arse and said frick anybody that don't like it
Posted by DP40
Swamps and creeks
Member since Nov 2008
9907 posts
Posted on 6/22/12 at 8:37 pm to
I don't like him.

It's ok for me to dislike the self-entitled chosen one, but you jock lickers(like Roaad) can't handle it.

"because at the end of the day, all the people that were wanting me to like James, at the end of the day, they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life that they had before they woke up today. They have the same personal problems they had today. I'm going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things that I want to do with me and my family and be happy with that.

They can get a few days or a few months or whatever the case may be on being happy about not only my opinion, but the Miami Heat accomplishing their goal. But they have to get back to the real world at some point."
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
55567 posts
Posted on 6/22/12 at 8:40 pm to
Quick question: Do you like Kevin Durant?
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52214 posts
Posted on 6/22/12 at 8:43 pm to
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I think the biggest difference in them is mentally,Jordan didn't give a frick if evrybody hated him.He just beat your arse and said frick anybody that don't like it


Yup. Thats why #2 all time is lebrons peak. Having an opportunity to be considered the 2nd greatest player ever while you're still in your prime is pretty impressive

But your right the menatality is the main thing that seperates them. Lebron will never be on jordan's level in that category. No one will, but thats just not the person lebron is despite what everyone wants him to be. However, to argue there is a huge talent gap between the two is quite foolish imo.
Posted by DP40
Swamps and creeks
Member since Nov 2008
9907 posts
Posted on 6/22/12 at 8:44 pm to
Doesn't matter, not the point of the thread is it?
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
55567 posts
Posted on 6/22/12 at 8:44 pm to
Figures.
Posted by DP40
Swamps and creeks
Member since Nov 2008
9907 posts
Posted on 6/22/12 at 8:46 pm to
Best you have on the answer to your dumb question?

Figures.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52214 posts
Posted on 6/22/12 at 8:46 pm to
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It's ok for me to dislike the self-entitled chosen one, but you jock lickers(like Roaad) can't handle it.


You can dislike whoever you want, thats your right. However the lebron detractors hate the people who say lebron is the goat. This is understandable because these people are stupid.

However as a lebron supporter i can deal with you not liking his personality or whatever but to not respect the elite level he plays at makes you just as dumb as the "lebron is the goat" crowd.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
55567 posts
Posted on 6/22/12 at 8:47 pm to
Don't work yourself into a tizzy.
Posted by tigerblood29
Member since Sep 2009
3062 posts
Posted on 6/22/12 at 8:49 pm to
Yeah,I'm not a Lebron fan,but admit his talent.What I hate with a passion is the irrational Lebron is the GOAT at everything with a basketball crowd.I honestly think this is the primary reason for all the Lebron hate.
Posted by DP40
Swamps and creeks
Member since Nov 2008
9907 posts
Posted on 6/22/12 at 8:53 pm to
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However as a lebron supporter i can deal with you not liking his personality or whatever but to not respect the elite level he plays at makes you just as dumb as the "lebron is the goat" crowd.


I don't know, but find where I argue about "elite level" bs.
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