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How bad is the NFL's current CBA for the players?

Posted on 7/26/13 at 12:57 pm
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 12:57 pm
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The biggest proof came last week when the publicly controlled Green Bay Packers released their annual financial statements. The Packers reported a team-record operating profit of $54.3 million for the 12-month period ending March 31, 2013, a 26 percent increase from the year before, according to the Sports Business Journal.

Even more eye-popping, the Packers’ net income in the two years before the CBA: $22.3 million. In the two seasons since: $85.8 million


Just so I'm clear, NFLPA agreed to lower salaries for rookies, essentially forcing out older more expensive players, for retirement benefits?... Why would they agree to this?...
This post was edited on 7/26/13 at 12:59 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 12:58 pm to
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Why would they agree to this?...


because it should also free up salary cap space for players to get paid more and set up a minimum salary cap for teams


Better benefits too:
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To be fair, the players have better post-retirement benefits — medical care, pensions, transition programs, and more — under the new CBA. The creation of the $620 million Legacy Fund for pre-1993 players helped correct some mistakes of the past. Players also have a better quality of life, with a shorter offseason program, stricter guidelines on contact in practice, and the elimination of two-a-days in training camp.


you need more data than that to support the conclusion (doesn't mean it isn't true)

This post was edited on 7/26/13 at 1:01 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61438 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 1:01 pm to
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Why would they agree to this?


They had no leverage. You have to go back to about a year before the lockout. The argument then was big market owners like Jerry Jones not wanting to share as much revenue with the small market owners. There wasn't any mention of players making too much money. Then a year later all of the sudden players make too much money so we're locking them out, oh and by the way we might make them play 18 games a season too. The owners settled their internal dispute by stealing from the players because they could.

Billionaires STAAAACKED
Millionaires FUUUUUCKED
This post was edited on 7/26/13 at 1:02 pm
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12060 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 1:04 pm to
Wait, you mean the Packers made a bunch of money shortly after winning a superbowl? That hardly ever happens.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 1:05 pm to
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Wait, you mean the Packers made a bunch of money shortly after winning a superbowl? That hardly ever happens.



so they're making more money now than they the seasons immediately following?
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 1:06 pm to
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because it should also free up salary cap space for players to get paid more and set up a minimum salary cap for teams


this, along with better pension and practice stuff, could've been included with a better split on revenue.

I know hindsight is 20/20, but another couple weeks and the players likely would've gotten a better deal... but as mentioned above.... Billionaires > Millionaires... their ability to hold out was greater, i guess.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110670 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

The biggest proof came last week when the publicly controlled Green Bay Packers released their annual financial statements. The Packers reported a team-record operating profit of $54.3 million for the 12-month period ending March 31, 2013, a 26 percent increase from the year before, according to the Sports Business Journal.

Even more eye-popping, the Packers’ net income in the two years before the CBA: $22.3 million. In the two seasons since: $85.8 million
What about the other 31 teams?
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 2:32 pm to
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What about the other 31 teams?


it's my understanding that the packers are publicly owned, so their financials are reported each year... the other 31 franchises are not and don't make that info public.

could be wrong about that though.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 6:50 pm to
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Just so I'm clear, NFLPA agreed to lower salaries for rookies, essentially forcing out older more expensive players, for retirement benefits?.....


No the NFLPA agreed to lower the salaries of 1st rounders. The rookie scale as it applies to 2nd - 7th round picks and undrafted free agents remained largely the same.

In both the old and new CBA, the draft is still the place to find cheap talent.

Combined that with the owners agreeing to raise the salary floor, and eventually more money will flow to veterans.

The NFLPA got fricked in this new CBA but this area really wasnt an example of that.

The % of the revenue split between owners and players & Goodell keeping God like power are better examples.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112238 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 6:54 pm to
It wouldnt be so bad if NFL owners didnt Blatantly collude like they do and did this offseason
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139837 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

know hindsight is 20/20, but another couple weeks and the players likely would've gotten a better dea


No they wouldn't have.. They got best deal they could have. Richardson was ready to recommend season long and he had the power for some reason in the lockout.

This post was edited on 7/26/13 at 7:08 pm
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 7:30 pm to
Didn't the Packers get most of that money from selling worthless stock certificates?
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