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re: How are the teachers that are failing bball players at the Cuse still employed?
Posted on 1/13/13 at 9:41 am to MontyFranklyn
Posted on 1/13/13 at 9:41 am to MontyFranklyn
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If i were the school's president i would fire the crap out of a teacher for failing star players.
Well its a good thing you aren't a school president since the media shite storm that would follow would more than likely get you fired. It was also bring in a major NCAA investigation into the actions of the other university professors on campus to see who else passed student-athletes for fear of being terminated. So it would probably lead to major sanctions and probation for the different sports involved.
You got yourself an awesome administrative policy there
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Posted on 1/13/13 at 10:16 am to saintsfan92612
quote:Maybe I didn't articulate myself well and assumed that you would grasp the point. I understand what you are saying completely but that isn't the point i am making. The average student will choose a school based on anything but academics. Most students choose a school that has a name that is recognizable to them. In today's day and time schools names are built on athletic achievements. For example, after Bama's first title during this dynasty in 09 applications went up more than 25%. That revenue from out of state tuition pays for the academics but the revenue from sports is a totally different matter. And im not talking about direct revenue, but indirect. Since Bama hired Saban Tuscaloosa's real estate market has spiked uncontrollably. One bed room condos are going for 300k. In the past 5 years there has been over 20 residential constructions. Compared to the era of 1999 - 2006 there were less than 10. College athletics are big business not just to the schools, but to the neighboring community as well. I mean look at whats going in the state of Pa.
There are about 340 Division 1 Athletic Departments.
Of those about 30 make over $1 million in revenue. Another ten make just enough to be sustainable. Therefore 300 Division 1 Athletic Departments actually operate at a loss. If anything, you could argue these schools would be able to afford larger and better faculty if not for their athletic departments.
Posted on 1/13/13 at 10:18 am to wilceaux
quote:Try to think a little bit before you make brash comments about someone. I know my post was quite radical, but you failed to grasp the true point.
wilceaux
Posted on 1/13/13 at 10:49 am to saintsfan92612
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There are about 340 Division 1 Athletic Departments. Of those about 30 make over $1 million in revenue. Another ten make just enough to be sustainable. Therefore 300 Division 1 Athletic Departments actually operate at a loss. If anything, you could argue these schools would be able to afford larger and better faculty if not for their athletic departments.
I call BS. Every BCS school makes a million plus just from bowl games.
Posted on 1/13/13 at 10:52 am to reb13
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I call BS. Every BCS school makes a million plus just from bowl games.
not football program its the whole department. Football has to fund all other basically non revenue sports esp title nine bullshite which they take a loss on
Posted on 1/13/13 at 10:53 am to StraightCashHomey21
He said revenue. Not profit. Big difference
Posted on 1/13/13 at 10:56 am to MontyFranklyn
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If i were the school's president i would fire the crap out of a teacher for failing star players. Last year it was Fab Melo and this year it is Sutherland. It is always a player that is key to the team as well. How does this keep happening at the Cuse?
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Alabama fan
Ohh.. now it makes sense.
Posted on 1/13/13 at 10:57 am to reb13
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He said revenue. Not profit. Big difference
regardless they still operate at a loss b/c the fund non revenue sports
Posted on 1/13/13 at 11:01 am to StraightCashHomey21
Ok, but what he said was still wrong. Also I'm pretty sure every SEC program operates at an overall profit. And I'm sure most other BCS schools at least operate near break even.
Posted on 1/13/13 at 11:03 am to MontyFranklyn
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I mean look at whats going in the state of Pa.
You mean that situation where the college president covered up something for the sake of the football program? Yeah how did that work out for Penn St?
Posted on 1/13/13 at 11:07 am to jacks40
quote:Well that, but what stemmed from it. The fact that the gov. is suing the NCAA. Part of the suite is siting that local businesses potentially lost revenue because of the sanctions.
You mean that situation where the college president covered up something for the sake of the football program? Yeah how did that work out for Penn St?
Posted on 1/13/13 at 11:17 am to MontyFranklyn
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Well that,
Yeah that. Maybe a reason why university presidents shouldn't try covering for athletic programs.
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Part of the suite is siting that local businesses potentially lost revenue because of the sanctions.
Suit and citing. No wonder you have this view on academics.
Posted on 1/13/13 at 11:34 am to hendersonshands
Maybe Jim Boeheim runs the university like Joe Paterno ran Ped State?
Posted on 1/13/13 at 12:31 pm to MontyFranklyn
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The average student will choose a school based on anything but academics
This is almost as dumb as the statement about firing the university president.
Posted on 1/13/13 at 12:37 pm to reb13
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I call BS. Every BCS school makes a million plus just from bowl games.
BCS schools appearing in the postseason subsidize other BCS schools in their conference not appearing in the postseason.
Posted on 1/13/13 at 12:42 pm to reb13
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Ok, but what he said was still wrong. Also I'm pretty sure every SEC program operates at an overall profit. And I'm sure most other BCS schools at least operate near break even.
Circa 2010 maybe a dozen NCAA schools broke even within their athletics departments, maybe a half dozen turned a profit over to the university. The rest lost money. If you look at the numbers, you'll see most athletics departments logging revenue from university subsidies and/or student fees. I can guarantee that none of those schools' athletics departments are operating at a profit.
Posted on 1/13/13 at 12:54 pm to MontyFranklyn
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If i were the school's president i would fire the crap out of a teacher for failing star players. Last year it was Fab Melo and this year it is Sutherland. It is always a player that is key to the team as well. How does this keep happening at the Cuse?
If you don't get the required grades in school, you shouldn't be going to school. Duh.
This post was edited on 1/13/13 at 12:55 pm
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