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re: Hornets Trade Proposal
Posted on 4/3/10 at 12:30 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 4/3/10 at 12:30 pm to TigerinATL
quote:exactly, so why the rush to trade a player that clearly has more developing to do and will be worth much more once he reaches that potential, and under CP3's tutelage he will develop a lot faster than 4 years. Collison will be a fully effective all star caliber PG in another year or two, then you can make a deal to bring in a bigtime frontline player that will help CP3 in his quest for a title.
This year you have low supply plus 4 more years of DC on the cheap.
This post was edited on 4/3/10 at 12:33 pm
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 12:39 pm to tubucoco
quote:
he makes a great backup for CP3
1) DC on bench plus Posey and Okafor on team - good guard rotation but no cap flexibility and still gaping holes in the starting lineup at 3 and 5.
2) Lose DC but get a starting 3 (assuming Wes Johnson falls to 6-9) and you dump either Posey or Okafor - improve starting 5 and fill a big hole on the wing and gain financial flexibility
3) Lose DC and get a starting 7 footer that can score and rebound (Bynum) and dump Okafor - improve the starting 5 and fill the hole Chandler left plus add offense. No financial flexibility is gained but it fills a huge hole.
DC provides good value as a player to the Hornets but I just think you're wrong if you don't think options 2 and 3 improve the Hornets more.
This post was edited on 4/3/10 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 4/3/10 at 12:46 pm to TigerinATL
but you and SFP make it sound as if this kid will be riding the bench 
that ain't gonna happen, this kid because of his rapid development thanks to CP3's injury will come into games fast allowing CP3 to not overuse his body and therefore make himself susecptible to injuries like this year when the Hornets rode the shite out of him in the past.
his rapid rise, and being paid cheaply as you said to backup CP means he will be even valuable to some team that wants a starting PG bad and are willing to give up one of their star big men, whereas you trade him now and that may not happen.
that ain't gonna happen, this kid because of his rapid development thanks to CP3's injury will come into games fast allowing CP3 to not overuse his body and therefore make himself susecptible to injuries like this year when the Hornets rode the shite out of him in the past. his rapid rise, and being paid cheaply as you said to backup CP means he will be even valuable to some team that wants a starting PG bad and are willing to give up one of their star big men, whereas you trade him now and that may not happen.
This post was edited on 4/3/10 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 4/3/10 at 12:47 pm to tubucoco
quote:
why the rush to trade a player that clearly has more developing to do and will be worth much more once he reaches that potential
and when are teams goin to see this potential other than long periods when cp3 gets hurt again?
quote:
then you can make a deal to bring in a bigtime frontline player that will help CP3 in his quest for a title.
odds are that we won't have the contracts to deal to match salaries in 2 years
Posted on 4/3/10 at 12:52 pm to tubucoco
quote:
but you and SFP make it sound as if this kid will be riding the bench
he's getting less than 30 min per his last 5
quote:
allowing CP3 to not overuse his body and therefore make himself susecptible to injuries like this year
paul didn't have an injury that occurs due to wear and tear
he had a ligament/cartilage tear, not a muscular problem (like a back, groin, or quad injury)
quote:
his rapid rise, and being paid cheaply as you said to backup CP means he will be even valuable to some team that wants a starting PG bad and are willing to give up one of their star big men,
a star big man making little (like DC) isn't exactly a common thing in the NBA
and big men > guards
i'm still waiting on this plan to improve the hornets
Posted on 4/3/10 at 12:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I just said he will take a lot of time away from CP3, and even play in the backcourt with him as already demonstrated.
and when are teams goin to see this potential other than long periods when cp3 gets hurt again?
Posted on 4/3/10 at 12:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:then you must not have been watching Paul in the past when he had so many nagging little injuries from playing so much that slowed his play.
paul didn't have any injury that occurs due to wear and tear
quote:not when it's an allstar caliber guard has you already stated.
and big men>guards
This post was edited on 4/3/10 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 4/3/10 at 12:55 pm to tubucoco
quote:
I just said he will take a lot of time away from CP3
when cp3 is healthy, he isn't going to be happy about that. he's goin to want to get cp3 minutes
just like he's going to dominate the shite out of the ball
Posted on 4/3/10 at 12:56 pm to tubucoco
quote:
then you must not have been watching Paul in the past when he had so many nagging little injuries from playing so much that slowed his play.
his injury this year had nothing to do with wear and tear. it was a popped ligament or cartilage (i forget which)
cp3 has durability issues b/c of his size..he will likely continue to have these issues. he's a small point
so is DC
DC/cp3/thornton = small as frick 3 guard rotation
Posted on 4/3/10 at 12:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
I don't think Paul will be unhappy about not having to play so much, just my opinion.
Posted on 4/3/10 at 12:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
Thornton isn't a PG.
and you keep harping on this years injury, I am not talkin about that.
and you keep harping on this years injury, I am not talkin about that.
This post was edited on 4/3/10 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 4/3/10 at 12:58 pm to tubucoco
i still have not heard a plan to upgrade the hornets other than dealing the contracts of peja/mopete this year
Posted on 4/3/10 at 1:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'm not a GM, I can't say what package will work, but I do know that if Collison continues to progress, he will be worth much more in any deal.
This post was edited on 4/3/10 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 4/3/10 at 1:00 pm to tubucoco
quote:
Thornton isn't a PG.
i said 3-guard, not 3 point guard
those are going to be our 3 guards in the rotation...none are even 6-4
Posted on 4/3/10 at 1:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
Thornton is taller than you think, ran into him in person, he is closer to 6'4".
besides. what the hell happened to Bobby Brown?
besides. what the hell happened to Bobby Brown?
This post was edited on 4/3/10 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 4/3/10 at 1:02 pm to tubucoco
Posted on 4/3/10 at 1:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
6-3.75 frick that's 6-4 to me.
how many players in the NBA are shorter barefoot?
frick that's 6-4 to me. how many players in the NBA are shorter barefoot?
This post was edited on 4/3/10 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 4/3/10 at 1:06 pm to tubucoco
quote:
besides. what the hell happened to Bobby Brown?
hornets dealt that piece of chit to get under the luxury tax
Posted on 4/3/10 at 1:06 pm to tubucoco
6-4 is still small as shite for a starting 2 in the NBA
Posted on 4/3/10 at 1:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
What I just don't understand is how any talk of moving Paul is instantly dismissed by fans. Yes, he is probably the best point guard in the league right now. But over the next 3 years, his contract is going to balloon. And on a nightly basis, the Hornets get KILLED in the paint by lack of offensive production, rebounding, and shoddy defense.
Without a skilled big, I think teams in the NBA are extremely limited:
2008-2009 Cavs
Phoenix (before Robin Lopez really developed
Heat
Bulls
etc.
I just think that moving CP3 could land a proven, extremely relibable big. What are the objections to this?
Without a skilled big, I think teams in the NBA are extremely limited:
2008-2009 Cavs
Phoenix (before Robin Lopez really developed
Heat
Bulls
etc.
I just think that moving CP3 could land a proven, extremely relibable big. What are the objections to this?
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