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re: HOF Finalists announced
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:49 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:49 pm to lsupride87
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5x all pro at tackle is better to me than 6x all pro at guard
Well neither of those numbers are right for either player but ok.
And also, by that logic Eli Manning should get in over both of them because QB is more important than both positions.
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:50 pm to Hester Carries
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Well neither of those numbers are right for either player but ok.
Sorry, 4 and 5
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:51 pm to Hester Carries
quote:Zero time all pro
And also, by that logic Eli Manning should get in over both of them because QB is more important than both positions.
But you are right in your thinking as manning actually has a chance at the HOF never being All pro. An offensive lineman would never make the ballot
Elway never made 1st team all pro. 2nd team only 3 times and he was a first ballot guy
Aikman ZERO all pros total. 1st ballot guy . Also why only a few kickers ever are in
Make sense? Didn’t think it would be argued position importance matters for the HOF
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:58 pm to lsupride87
Elway and Aikman have something in common with Evans that Anderson doesnt share too.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 4:01 pm to tigerfan84
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Brees, Fitzgerald, Gore, Kevin Williams, Jason Witten
Gore - 0 1st team All-Pros, 1x 2nd team All-Pro
Kuechly - 5x 1st team All Pro, 2x time 2nd team All Pro
Gore was consistently decent for a long time but elite only once
Kuechly was the gold standard for ILB play for his whole career
Posted on 12/30/25 at 4:02 pm to Hester Carries
There are roughly 2x more tackles than guards in the NFL HOF. It just isn’t viewed as important meaning it tougher to get in. You usually will need far better accolades than a Tackle to make it over them
I don’t see 5 all pros compared to 4 weighing heavily enough there.
I don’t see 5 all pros compared to 4 weighing heavily enough there.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 4:03 pm to htran90
5 extra years of NFL health insurance > gold jacket 
Posted on 12/30/25 at 4:07 pm to DownSouthCrawfish
Posted on 12/30/25 at 4:07 pm to RLDSC FAN
oh hell no
Posted on 12/30/25 at 4:08 pm to DownSouthCrawfish
Posted on 12/30/25 at 4:09 pm to RLDSC FAN
I mean Brees did choose to go back to San Diego in retirement. He should go into the hall as a Charger
Posted on 12/30/25 at 4:32 pm to lsupride87
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There are roughly 2x more tackles than guards in the NFL HOF. It just isn’t viewed as important meaning it tougher to get in. You usually will need far better accolades than a Tackle to make it over them
I don’t see 5 all pros compared to 4 weighing heavily enough there.
I dont necessarily disagree with that. But i think Jahri has a much better perception (pro bowl voting does at least show this) among fans, and the league (more all pros) and a super bowl ring. And the fact that WA played in literally one playoff game in his career before his final season with Baltimore (also played on one team with a winning record prior to that year). It was just a much more irrelevant and unheralded (objectively) career.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 4:32 pm to Frac the world
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Will Brees kneel at the podium and Say Her Name?
Surely he will put a rapists name on his bust
Posted on 12/30/25 at 4:35 pm to tigerfan84
Drew Brees and Larry Fitzgerald are the only sure pics in my opinion on that list
Posted on 12/30/25 at 4:45 pm to htran90
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Definitely wouldn't have made it first ballot, but damn he has to wait 5 years again?!
Genius move IMO. In 5 years, the voters will be like "Damn, Rivers isn't in yet? Hasn't he waited long enough? Okay, let's vote him in." And then Rivers will technically be a first ballot HOF.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:11 pm to tigerfan84
Pro Football Reference HOF Monitor says there are 5 in the top 7 all-time at their position and the highest eligible at their position.
Larry Fitzgerald 141.59 - 4th all-time (avg HOF WR is 100)
Reggie Wayne 111.64 - 14th all-time
Torry Holt 109.72 - 15th all-time
Drew Brees 141.08 - 7th all-time (avg HOF QB is 108)
Eli Manning 86.51 - 23rd all-time
Adam Vinatieri 94.20 - 2nd all-time (avg HOF K is 77)
Luke Kuechly 119.95 - 5th all-time (avg HOF ILB is 106)
Jason Whitten 105.22 - 7th all-time (avg HOF TE is 99)
Kevin Williams 105.53 - 9th all-time (avg HOF DT is 102)
Frank Gore 100.55 - 10th all-time (avg HOF RB is 107)
Terrell Suggs 95.80 - 11th all-time (avg HOF OLB is 103)
Jahri Evans 98.25 - 10th all-time (avg HOF OG is 106)
Marshal Yanda 84.15 - 13th all-time
Darren Woodson 67.83 - 44th all-time (avg HOF DB is 97)
Willie Anderson 62.53 - 29th all-time (avg HOF OT is 95)
Larry Fitzgerald 141.59 - 4th all-time (avg HOF WR is 100)
Reggie Wayne 111.64 - 14th all-time
Torry Holt 109.72 - 15th all-time
Drew Brees 141.08 - 7th all-time (avg HOF QB is 108)
Eli Manning 86.51 - 23rd all-time
Adam Vinatieri 94.20 - 2nd all-time (avg HOF K is 77)
Luke Kuechly 119.95 - 5th all-time (avg HOF ILB is 106)
Jason Whitten 105.22 - 7th all-time (avg HOF TE is 99)
Kevin Williams 105.53 - 9th all-time (avg HOF DT is 102)
Frank Gore 100.55 - 10th all-time (avg HOF RB is 107)
Terrell Suggs 95.80 - 11th all-time (avg HOF OLB is 103)
Jahri Evans 98.25 - 10th all-time (avg HOF OG is 106)
Marshal Yanda 84.15 - 13th all-time
Darren Woodson 67.83 - 44th all-time (avg HOF DB is 97)
Willie Anderson 62.53 - 29th all-time (avg HOF OT is 95)
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:43 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Gore - 0 1st team All-Pros, 1x 2nd team All-Pro
Kuechly - 5x 1st team All Pro, 2x time 2nd team All Pro
Gore was consistently decent for a long time but elite only once
Kuechly was the gold standard for ILB play for his whole career
Enough of this slander.
Gore is 3rd all time rushing....look who's he ahead of.
All-Pro teams made isn't the defining factor for making the HoF. His durability and consistency alone should be enough to get him in as we are unlikely to see many like him moving forward.
Gore is a hall of famer.
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:59 pm to lsupride87
This isn't Baseball.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 6:07 pm to Boodis Man
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All-Pro teams made isn't the defining factor for making the HoF.
No but it is a huge part of it. And 7 All Pros is a lot
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Enough of this slander.
How is this slander? I didn’t say he sucked or doesn’t belong in the HOF. But he isn’t more deserving compared to a guy that was the best or 2nd best ILB in the league almost his whole career.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 6:20 pm to 1BamaRTR
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How is this slander? I didn’t say he sucked or doesn’t belong in the HOF. But he isn’t more deserving compared to a guy that was the best or 2nd best ILB in the league almost his whole career.
I say Gore is more accomplished at RB than Kuechly is at LB.
Derek Henry is considered to be on the HoF track and he still has alot of work to do to catch Gore.
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