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Posted on 1/11/10 at 12:49 pm to ATLTiger
Mo Pete and a 1st for nothing please make that happen!
Posted on 1/11/10 at 12:51 pm to mhasen1
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It would be giving them a 1st to take MoPete.
Yeah, but that takes away a draft pick and doesn't get us under the cap, just the luxury tax. Don't we need to be under the cap to actually go after good players? I'd rather keep the pick.
Posted on 1/11/10 at 12:53 pm to mhasen1
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West will not be moved.
that is a strong statement to be making right now
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If they can trade MoPete, it will because they can convince someone to take a future 1st rounder to take him.
no way does a Hornets 1st round pick make MoPete (2yr/12.8mm) attractive to anyone. Peterson has zero trade value and can't get off the Hornets bench with Bower coaching the team
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The hitch in the plan is that most of the teams with large enough trade exceptions to take on MoPete are trying to get under the tax themselves and the first round pick isn't worth the price they will pay.
I disagree. The hitch in the plan is MoPete is terrible and has no value because he is washed up
Posted on 1/11/10 at 12:57 pm to flytronix225
fail.
Posted on 1/11/10 at 12:59 pm to supatigah
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The hitch in the plan is MoPete is terrible and has no value because he is washed up
don't forget overpaid too
Posted on 1/11/10 at 1:00 pm to flytronix225
wow, this would be awesome
Posted on 1/11/10 at 1:03 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
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Mo Pete and a 1st for nothing please make that happen!
You need a partner. No team can absorb his contract under the salary cap with giving nothing in return. Only teams with a 6 million dollar trade exception can. The only teams that can do that are Orlando, Denver, and Utah. And Denver and Utah are trying to cut payroll.
The best case scenario would be if teams complete large buyouts ala McGrady or a special situation like Washington where half of Arenas' salary won't count against the cap. If a buyout or suspension gets a team far enough under the cap, they may be willing. But the Hornets are 1 of about 7-8 teams hoping to do the same thing. Any team that can do it will be able to drive a hard bargain.
Posted on 1/11/10 at 1:05 pm to Shankopotomus
that is why I put the (2yr/12.8mm) there
to make a deal like he is talking about, then the hornets first round pick would probably have to be unprotected for the lottery. If the pick did end up in the lottery (which is really just one CP3 injury away) it would be a PR disaster for the franchise (CP3 coming off an injury and no more lottery pick)
The Hornets would probably want it to be lottery protected which means if somehow the pick was in the lottery, the Hornets would get to keep it and a later year would be substituted.
Cant see anyone taking on MoPete for a lottery protected first in the 14-22 range
to make a deal like he is talking about, then the hornets first round pick would probably have to be unprotected for the lottery. If the pick did end up in the lottery (which is really just one CP3 injury away) it would be a PR disaster for the franchise (CP3 coming off an injury and no more lottery pick)
The Hornets would probably want it to be lottery protected which means if somehow the pick was in the lottery, the Hornets would get to keep it and a later year would be substituted.
Cant see anyone taking on MoPete for a lottery protected first in the 14-22 range
Posted on 1/11/10 at 1:08 pm to supatigah
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no way does a Hornets 1st round pick make MoPete (2yr/12.8mm) attractive to anyone. Peterson has zero trade value and can't get off the Hornets bench with Bower coaching the team
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The hitch in the plan is that most of the teams with large enough trade exceptions to take on MoPete are trying to get under the tax themselves and the first round pick isn't worth the price they will pay.
I disagree. The hitch in the plan is MoPete is terrible and has no value because he is washed up
I don't disagree with any of that. I was just stating what the Hornets would like to do. And none of them involve trading West and his declining salary.
Posted on 1/11/10 at 1:09 pm to mhasen1
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The Hornets have 7 million in trade exceptions that they will be willing to use as long as they can stay under the tax.
they're $500k under the tax but have $7M in trade exceptions...as long as they don't go over the tax
so they h ave $500k in trade exceptions
Posted on 1/11/10 at 1:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
The trade exception part was predicated on trading MoPete and being 5-6 million under the tax.
This post was edited on 1/11/10 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 1/11/10 at 1:10 pm to TigerinATL
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Don't we need to be under the cap to actually go after good players?
yes
and moving mo-pete this year would hurt the hornets in trades next year
with the combo of expiring deals of peja/pete, the hornets could get a superstar for those 2
if they deal pete, the hornets' options are limited
Posted on 1/11/10 at 1:12 pm to mhasen1
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The trade exception part was predicated on trading MoPete and being 5-6 million under the tax.
this won't happen, so it's ridiculous to think it will
and it would be a stupid move on the hornets' part anyway
Posted on 1/11/10 at 1:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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they're $500k under the tax but have $7M in trade exceptions...as long as they don't go over the tax
so they h ave $500k in trade exceptions
Posted on 1/11/10 at 1:14 pm to mhasen1
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I don't disagree with any of that. I was just stating what the Hornets would like to do. And none of them involve trading West and his declining salary.
sure, I understand what you are saying and we are on the same page here
Scott played MoPete, Bower/Floyd won't. So without consistent mpg to try to put up numbers, MoPete is essentially worthless
Posted on 1/11/10 at 1:14 pm to supatigah
mo-pete makes about 300% of what he should be making, so by that fact, he's worthless
god the hornets' front office fricking sucks
god the hornets' front office fricking sucks
Posted on 1/11/10 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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yes
and moving mo-pete this year would hurt the hornets in trades next year
with the combo of expiring deals of peja/pete, the hornets could get a superstar for those 2
if they deal pete, the hornets' options are limited
The Hornets still would have Songalia's 5 million expiring next year along with Peja's.
And the Hornets are more likely to let Peja expire and go shopping in 2011 than they are to trade him next year.
Posted on 1/11/10 at 1:16 pm to reddman
Drafting Hilton Armstrong and Cedric Simmons in the same year, in the 1st round, Worst combo of 1st Rd picks in NBA History???
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