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has “targeting” jumped the shark?
Posted on 9/19/21 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 9/19/21 at 12:49 pm
I understand they want to protect the players, but every big hit is an automatic targeting penalty it seems, or any incidental helmet to helmet contact.
Most of the time the defender is laying out to make a tackle and the ball carrier ducks into the hit. Back in the day that was good defense, now it’s targeting and an automatic ejection
I feel like there’s a way to protect the players while also not ruining the game
Most of the time the defender is laying out to make a tackle and the ball carrier ducks into the hit. Back in the day that was good defense, now it’s targeting and an automatic ejection
I feel like there’s a way to protect the players while also not ruining the game
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Posted on 9/19/21 at 12:50 pm to TulaneFan
When you can't legally stop a player from reaching over the goalline, it jumped the shark.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 2:57 pm to KosmoCramer
That auburn hit was criminal. And I hate auburn with a passion.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 3:13 pm to gsvar2004
Posted on 9/19/21 at 3:23 pm to Xenophon
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Xenophon
I’ll give you 100% of any royalties I earn from posting this thread
Posted on 9/19/21 at 3:25 pm to TulaneFan
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has “targeting” jumped the shark?
It has always jumped the shark since it's one-sided and the offensive player often creates teh H2H contact and the defender gets ejected.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 3:29 pm to TulaneFan
Posted on 9/19/21 at 3:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
Targeting hasn't jumped the shark even a tiny bit.
People make the mistake of believing the penalty is the purpose of targeting, and its application is the measure of its success.
The penalty is about the reduction of injury, and in that, it has been an *overwhelming* success, leading to reductions in neck, spine, and brain injuries that far outpaced hopes. The first long term longitudinal studies of injury rates over a period of at least 5 years have shown just how much safer football has become.
People make the mistake of believing the penalty is the purpose of targeting, and its application is the measure of its success.
The penalty is about the reduction of injury, and in that, it has been an *overwhelming* success, leading to reductions in neck, spine, and brain injuries that far outpaced hopes. The first long term longitudinal studies of injury rates over a period of at least 5 years have shown just how much safer football has become.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 3:47 pm to BoardReader
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The first long term longitudinal studies
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5 years
Posted on 9/19/21 at 3:55 pm to BoardReader
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People make the mistake of believing the penalty is the purpose of targeting, and its application is the measure of its success.
The penalty is what affects what counts: the game.
And targeting jumped the shark by being one-sided. If offensive players move their helmets in the way of straight-line defenders' helmets, the offensive player should be ejected. If offensive players can twist out of tackles to become "defenseless" and fall into targeting calls, then they should be down prior to becoming "defenseless".
You know what would really help reduce H2H contact (and all the injuries that result)? Punishing offensive players for creating the H2H contact so that they stop doing that.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 4:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The penalty is what affects what counts: the game.
And targeting jumped the shark by being one-sided. If offensive players move their helmets in the way of straight-line defenders' helmets, the offensive player should be ejected. If offensive players can twist out of tackles to become "defenseless" and fall into targeting calls, then they should be down prior to becoming "defenseless".
You know what would really help reduce H2H contact (and all the injuries that result)? Punishing offensive players for creating the H2H contact so that they stop doing that.
If you still want to *have* the game, injury counts had to come down. That's a lot more serious than any impact it had on indvidual games.
They still have to try to find a way to get a handle on CTE over the long term, but this rule has extended the life of football to give them the opportunity to do so.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 4:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
Give them leather helmets and targeting will drop dramatically.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 4:10 pm to BoardReader
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If you still want to *have* the game, injury counts had to come down. That's a lot more serious than any impact it had on indvidual games.
They still have to try to find a way to get a handle on CTE over the long term, but this rule has extended the life of football to give them the opportunity to do so.
Nothing you just wrote has anything to do with what I wrote.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 6:35 pm to BoardReader
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If you still want to *have* the game, injury counts had to come down.
You're still going to have long term brain damage with offensive players still being allowed to lower their helmets. That's the point the man was trying to make. The penalty does nothing but negatively affect the outcome of the game for one team over another and it is 100% one-sided AGAINST the defense.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 6:42 pm to BoardReader
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The first long term longitudinal studies of injury rates over a period of at least 5 years have shown just how much safer football has become.
Yeah well there has also been a lot of dog shite calls that cost players playing time and said players team.
They need to just make it a 15 yard penalty unless it is a totally egregious foul. Then and ONLY then do you look to take away playing time for the next contest.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:49 pm to LooseCannon22282
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They need to just make it a 15 yard penalty unless it is a totally egregious foul. Then and ONLY then do you look to take away playing time for the next contest.
It very obviously needs to have some kind of tier system to its application. The Auburn player made a great play to stop a touchdown, and the replays confirmed that it was a solid effort by the defender to avoid any helmet contact.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:34 pm to TulaneFan
The Auburn call was totally ridiculous.
Penn State player was being tackled but twisting to dive over the goal line.
Auburn player couldn't have gotten any lower to stop the Penn State player.
Helmets are going to inadvertently hit.
Plus the Penn State player was a runner then. But the on-air official said he was defenseless because he was tackled. He wasn't tackled, he was still fighting to get over the goal line.
Penn State player was being tackled but twisting to dive over the goal line.
Auburn player couldn't have gotten any lower to stop the Penn State player.
Helmets are going to inadvertently hit.
Plus the Penn State player was a runner then. But the on-air official said he was defenseless because he was tackled. He wasn't tackled, he was still fighting to get over the goal line.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 8:36 pm
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