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re: Greatest of all time - Professional sports
Posted on 10/19/12 at 6:35 pm to sms151t
Posted on 10/19/12 at 6:35 pm to sms151t
quote:
He didn't own Wilt.
Sure he did. IF you want to talk about the BEST ever in the NBA. Russell's teams beat Wilts teams all the time. IF Wilt was as GREAT as YOU say he should have been good enough to get his team a win.
RUSSELL had a HUGE impact on why the Celts won.
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Posted on 10/19/12 at 6:37 pm to dukke v
What the numbers show is a decade of head-to-head battles from 1959 to 1969 during which Chamberlain shattered virtually all of the NBA's scoring and rebounding records while Russell collected championships. Over 10 seasons, they played 142 games against each other with Russell winning 85 and Chamberlain 57. The stats show that in those games, Wilt averaged 28.7 points and 28.7 rebounds while Russell averaged 14.5 points and 23.7 rebounds. Chamberlain scored 50 or more points seven times against Russell, including a high of 62. Russell's highest scoring game against Chamberlain was 37. And, of course, in that decade of squaring off, Russell won nine championships to Wilt's one.
That's from NBA.com not me making up stuff
I guess having Hondo and 2 or 3 HOF's didn't help the Celts at all?
That's from NBA.com not me making up stuff
I guess having Hondo and 2 or 3 HOF's didn't help the Celts at all?
This post was edited on 10/19/12 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 10/19/12 at 6:43 pm to sms151t
Wilt was the most dominant athlete to play any sport at any given time.
If he wasn't such a nice guy, uncomfortable with his size, and afraid to hurt others there is no telling the numbers he would have put up.
Transported into today's game he would instantly be the leagues best center.
If he wasn't such a nice guy, uncomfortable with his size, and afraid to hurt others there is no telling the numbers he would have put up.
Transported into today's game he would instantly be the leagues best center.
Posted on 10/19/12 at 6:44 pm to sms151t
quote:
What the numbers show is a decade of head-to-head battles from 1959 to 1969 during which Chamberlain shattered virtually all of the NBA's scoring and rebounding records while Russell collected championships. Over 10 seasons, they played 142 games against each other with Russell winning 85 and Chamberlain 57. The stats show that in those games, Wilt averaged 28.7 points and 28.7 rebounds while Russell averaged 14.5 points and 23.7 rebounds. Chamberlain scored 50 or more points seven times against Russell, including a high of 62. Russell's highest scoring game against Chamberlain was 37. And, of course, in that decade of squaring off, Russell won nine championships to Wilt's one.
That's from NBA.com not me making up stuff
I guess having Hondo and 2 or 3 HOF's didn't help the Celts at all?
Thats some good research.
I will say this. WILT against ANYONE else was unreal IN the NBA.
Posted on 10/19/12 at 6:46 pm to dukke v
Research?
No I just knew your statement about owning Wilt was wrong. Ill give you team v team but not head to head, when its false.
No I just knew your statement about owning Wilt was wrong. Ill give you team v team but not head to head, when its false.
Posted on 10/19/12 at 6:55 pm to bomber77
quote:It goes beyond that. Like I said, he was the ultimate prima donna. At one point in one particular season he realized he was leading the league in assists. So he started doing everything he can just to get assists. He would give up wide open dunks. He also had some ridiculous streak of never fouling out. So if he got 5 fouls, he would take himself out of the game. He hurt his team in so many different ways. He quit when the going go tough, or frankly when he just didn't feel like it.
If he wasn't such a nice guy, uncomfortable with his size, and afraid to hurt others there is no telling the numbers he would have put up
He was a great basketball player. But he was a prima donna and a loser.
Posted on 10/19/12 at 6:59 pm to sms151t
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but not head to head, when its false.
OK. But compared to what Wilt did to everyone else My statement is true. Its a touchey situation comparing the Goat in any sport because of eras.Todays people think Bonds is the best, while I think Ruth was the best. People today think SHAQ was better than Wilt Or Russell.
Posted on 10/19/12 at 7:02 pm to genro
He never fouled out but it wasn't from taking himself out or slacking off. He averaged an estimated 9 shots a game and played every single minute of every game for seasons at a time.
Speaking of athleticism, Wilt was an NCAA track champion and perhaps the worlds best volleyball player for his time.
Speaking of athleticism, Wilt was an NCAA track champion and perhaps the worlds best volleyball player for his time.
This post was edited on 10/19/12 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 10/19/12 at 7:04 pm to dukke v
Jordan is an unbelievable athlete.
But LeBron is an ever better athlete
Wilt was a better physical specimen
You could even argue they had better scoring skills.
But Jordan had more heart and determination in his pinky than those guys will ever have in their whole lives.
That's why Jordan is the GOAT.
But LeBron is an ever better athlete
Wilt was a better physical specimen
You could even argue they had better scoring skills.
But Jordan had more heart and determination in his pinky than those guys will ever have in their whole lives.
That's why Jordan is the GOAT.
Posted on 10/19/12 at 7:06 pm to bomber77
quote:Yes, it most certainly was because of that.
He never fouled out but it wasn't from taking himself out or slacking off.
Posted on 10/19/12 at 7:06 pm to genro
quote:
But Jordan had more heart and determination in his pinky than those guys will ever have in their whole lives.
That's why Jordan is the GOAT.
FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 10/19/12 at 7:07 pm to dukke v
quote:
People today think SHAQ was better than Wilt Or Russell.
Posted on 10/19/12 at 7:08 pm to genro
For 3 seasons the man averaged over 48 minutes a game. One big reason he never fouled out was because no one took the ball at him. It was pointless.
Btw, Jordan is the GOAT. Wilt was just the most dominant.
Btw, Jordan is the GOAT. Wilt was just the most dominant.
This post was edited on 10/19/12 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 10/19/12 at 7:12 pm to genro
NBA - Michael Jordan
MLB - Mickey Mantle
NFL - Joe Montana
Tennis - Pete Sampras
Golf - I don't know anything about golf.
MLB - Mickey Mantle
NFL - Joe Montana
Tennis - Pete Sampras
Golf - I don't know anything about golf.
Posted on 10/19/12 at 7:14 pm to bomber77
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Btw, Jordan is the GOAT. Wilt was just the most dominant.
You can't have it both ways. YOU want DOMINANT. Look at how MAGIC changed the game. NO his stats weren't as impressive but what he did in 1980 as a rookie in game 6 of the NBA finals against Philly[IN PHILLY] Was one of the greatest perfomances of all time.[IN ANY SPORT].
Posted on 10/19/12 at 7:20 pm to genro
Russell, Ruth, Brown, Gretzky, Ray Robinson
Posted on 10/19/12 at 7:50 pm to genro
Gretzky is the greatest player in any sport of all time when you look at their accomplishments relative to all others in their sport.
His stats are absolutely breathtaking.
His stats are absolutely breathtaking.
Posted on 10/19/12 at 8:37 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Wilt was the most dominant athlete to play any sport at any given time.
I get what you are saying and track isn't NBA but....Edwin Moses didn't lose for 10 yrs.
Halie Gebserlassie held every world record from longer than a mile to the marathon (he also had, I believe the fastest time in the world one year in the mile..)
Wilt was a h--- of an athlete though.
This post was edited on 10/19/12 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 10/19/12 at 8:46 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:
Gretzky is the greatest player in any sport of all time when you look at their accomplishments relative to all others in their sport.
His stats are absolutely breathtaking.
Posted on 10/19/12 at 9:24 pm to pvilleguru
Tiger Woods.
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