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Greatest Hockey Player of all time

Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:07 am
Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:07 am
my nomination Bobby Orr (from legends website)"More than just statistics, Orr had the ability to control the game, to take over. He had the speed to float away from defenders and also to recover effortlessly should he lose possession or get caught on a rush." from Wiki... simply the best A defenceman, Orr used his skating speed and scoring and play-making abilities to revolutionize the position.[3] As of 2010[update], Orr remains the only defenceman to have won the league scoring title with two Art Ross Trophies and holds the record for most points and assists in a single season by a defenceman. Orr won a record eight consecutive Norris Trophies as the NHL's best defenceman and three consecutive Hart Trophies as the league's most valuable player (MVP). Orr was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1979 at age 31, the youngest to that day to be inducted into the Hall.

Orr started in organized hockey at age five. He first played as a forward, but was moved to defence by his coach, who allowed him the freedom to play his style. At fourteen, Orr joined the Oshawa Generals, the Bruins' junior hockey affiliate and he was an all-star for three of his four seasons. In 1966, Orr joined Boston, a team that had not won a Stanley Cup since 1941 and had not qualified for the playoffs since 1959. With Orr, the Bruins won the Stanley Cup twice, in 1970 and 1972 and lost in the 1974 Final. In both victories, Orr scored the clinching goal and was named the playoff MVP. In the final achievement of his career, he was the MVP of the 1976 Canada Cup international hockey tournament. In 1976, Orr left Boston as a free agent to join the Black Hawks, but repeated injuries had effectively destroyed his left knee, and he retired in 1978 at age 30.





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Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:13 am to
knuckle puck kid from the mighty ducks
Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:36 am to
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knuckle puck kid from the mighty ducks
Body of Work Heartbreak, Body of Work...
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:59 am to
Gretzky
Posted by MadMaxwell
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 10:01 am to
No disrespect to Orr, but how is the answer anybody but Gretzky? He owns over 60 NHL records, won 8 straight MVPs, is the only player to tally over 200 points in a season, which he did four times. He's not just the greatest hockey player of all time, he's the greatest player in any sport, ever.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 10:10 am to
To understand Bobby Orr's greatness, you have to consider how defencemen played the game before him and how they played after him...defencemen never won the scoring championships before him...he changed everything..including mindsets...
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 10:23 am to
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No disrespect to Orr, but how is the answer anybody but Gretzky?
Posted by LSUAce007
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 10:49 am to
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To understand Bobby Orr's greatness, you have to consider how defencemen played the game before him and how they played after him

To understand Russ Tyler's greatness, you have to consider how guys like Gretzky and Orr shot the puck before he came around. Before he was around all these guys just shot the puck as hard as they could. Russ Tyler was truly an innovator. The knuckle puck straight up drives goalies crazy!
Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:34 am to
Again you have to examine the player's total body of work...stats in the NHL?
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:44 am to
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He owns over 60 NHL records, won 8 straight MVPs, is the only player to tally over 200 points in a season, which he did four times. He's not just the greatest hockey player of all time, he's the greatest player in any sport, ever.


Didn't he play on a team with an absolutely disgusting amount of talent? The Oilers actually won a Stanley Cup after he left and a lot of those players ended up winning another one with the New York Rangers a few years later.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:49 am to
Not to mention a diluted talent pool...
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:50 am to
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To understand Bobby Orr's greatness, you have to consider how defencemen played the game before him and how they played after him...defencemen never won the scoring championships before him...he changed everything..including mindsets



I agree with you here. Bobby changed the game. BUT so did Gordie Howe. He put HOCKEY ON THE MAP in the USA. BUT Wayne is the answer. He did amazing things that have never been done before. Like Jim Brown and Babe Ruth He was SO much better than everyone else he played against its amazing.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:57 am to
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He was SO much better than everyone else he played against its amazing.
agreed Peejer, the quality of the players each played against is at issue here at 20 or even 30 teams Gretz played against, i would suggest the talent Bobby played against may have been better...
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 12:08 pm to
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i would suggest the talent Bobby played against may have been better...



Maybe. BUT everybody thinks Patrick Roy was the best goalie EVER. MY vote Goes to Ron Hextall.
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 12:18 pm to
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BUT everybody thinks Patrick Roy was the best goalie EVER


Dominik Hasek? He's won the Vezina trophy 6x to Roy's 3 and Brodeur's 4. He's also won the Hart trophy 2x, the only goalie to ever do so. It would be like the pitcher winning the MVP in baseball twice. He was unbelievably dominant in his prime.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 12:22 pm to
Ken Dryden...
Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 12:24 pm to
Ken Dryden...
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 12:25 pm to
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Dominik Hasek


The RUBBER MAN!!!!!!
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 12:40 pm to
Gordie Howe. Not only was he one of the best forwards ever, he also may have been the best fighter ever, which is all that really matters.
Posted by lsu31always
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 12:43 pm to
Russ Tyler is the man you are looking for.



The answer is clearly Adam Banks
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