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re: Great Playoff Proposal
Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:22 am to Augustus
Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:22 am to Augustus
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Giving home-field advantage gives more incentive to winning in the regular season, IMO.
and it creates perhaps the biggest reason why a playoff won't happen
the financial landscape of CFB would change and create an even bigger gap b/c haves and have nots
plus the conferences won't go for that either. why would the SEC want UF/Bama to get 2-3 extra home games every year, when a team like MSU, Vandy, or Ole Miss, etc would almost never sniff one extra home game? it would create a financial chasm within the conference (let alone in the BCS vs non-BCS)
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Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:23 am to Gmorgan4982
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I'm not saying the 2nd best team in any conference wouldn't win the Sun Belt.
then what's the point of a title-determination system if the best teams aren't in it?
you invalidate the entire process
Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:24 am to SlowFlowPro
Where are you coming up with 3 extra home games? My system would have 1 extra home game. I told you this when I commented on your blog. You take the dumbest of playoff proposals, which, I admit, is most of them, argue against them and then use their failures to argue for the wretched BCS system.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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plus the conferences won't go for that either. why would the SEC want UF/Bama to get 2-3 extra home games every year, when a team like MSU, Vandy, or Ole Miss, etc would almost never sniff one extra home game? it would create a financial chasm within the conference
The SEC would prob treat playoff games like the bowl games and do a revenue sharing plan.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:26 am to Gmorgan4982
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Where are you coming up with 3 extra home games?
16 team playoff = 3 extra home games if they play with home field advantage (like people propose)
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You take the dumbest of playoff proposals
any playoff proposal outside of a 4-team playoff will meet a bunch of scrutiny
a true plus one would be the best system anyway. it would make the BCS bowls mean something every year
Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:27 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:The best teams are in it. The top 9 teams in the BCS rankings are right there. I'm sure between the 9 of them, they'll find a way to eliminate Central Michigan, East Carolina, and Troy. It's not as big of a deal as you are making it out to be. I'm pretty sure the Sun Belt champion will not be winning my playoff, if it were to occur. However, I can assure you that 3 undefeated teams will have no chance of winning your playoff.
then what's the point of a title-determination system if the best teams aren't in it?
Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:27 am to TopWaterTiger
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The SEC would prob treat playoff games like the bowl games and do a revenue sharing plan.
no way the schools would bow down to this, and the NCAA would back the schools
Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:28 am to Gmorgan4982
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I'm pretty sure the Sun Belt champion will not be winning my playoff,
then they have no business gaining the entitlement to play for a title
only teams who deserve a title shot, as in, they are the best team within the # range, should get this entitlement
Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:28 am to Gmorgan4982
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However, I can assure you that 3 undefeated teams will have no chance of winning your playoff.
and i assure you there will be no chance for an obviously unworthy champ, like the giants a few years ago or the rockets in the 90s, or NCState in CBB, etc
Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:30 am to SlowFlowPro
Unworthy according to who? Cincinnati, TCU, and Boise would each destroy both Texas and Alabama ............ in my opinion.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:30 am to Chicken
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way too many...that would be four extra weeks of football...no way the college presidents go for that...
Really? All the FCS college presidents go for it. Only two teams would play 16 games. Only four would play fifteen. Right now, Boise, Texas, Alabama, Nebraska, Clemson, Ga. Tech and Florida are playing 14.
I think it's a great proposal. My only sop to the bowls would be to play each round in a bowl game. By choosing a bowl near the "host," you would preserve home-field advantage and make a ton of money for a minor bowl. Can you imagine how much money Birmingham would make from a Alabama-Troy papajohns bowl?
Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:30 am to RockChalkTiger
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My only sop to the bowls would be to play each round in a bowl game.
yay let's have games with 20k crowds
Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:31 am to Gmorgan4982
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Unworthy according to who?
having 4 more losses than the teams with the best records makes you unworthy
Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:34 am to SlowFlowPro
Like I said, I'm sure the top 9 teams in the BCS will find a way to eliminate Troy, ECU, and CMU. If not, oh well.
This post was edited on 12/7/09 at 10:35 am
Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:35 am to Gmorgan4982
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If not, oh well.
great logic
let's invite unworthy teams and if they frick up the system in games that aren't representative of the season, "oh well"
Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:39 am to SlowFlowPro
The 3rd best SEC big 12, etc teams could win those conferences some years.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:39 am to SlowFlowPro
Your system guarantees a less worthy champion. Cincy/TCU/Boise are way better than Bama or Texas .......... in my opinion.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:40 am to Gmorgan4982
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Cincy/TCU/Boise are way better than Bama or Texas .......... in my opinion.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:42 am to Gmorgan4982
So, you're invalidating a system on the basis of the chances of teams like Troy, ECU, or CMU winning two road games and then two neutral site games all against top 10 teams. Yet, you support a system that says "too bad" to undefeated teams all the time?
This post was edited on 12/7/09 at 10:43 am
Posted on 12/7/09 at 10:44 am to ArmyTiger84
Dude, any playoff that gives an auto-bid to the Sun Belt champion is, frankly, STUPID. They had a champion with a losing schedule one year!
Not to mention conference champions are determined by a process which does not all take into account out of conference performance (except in the case of close ties).
16 teams is way too much. It would include undeserving teams this year such as Troy - and frankly - LSU.
Here's an 8 team playoff that would work:
First round
Sugar - Alabama v Boise State
Orange- Cincinatti v TCU
Rose - Oregon v Ohio State
Fiesta - Texas v Florida
Not to mention conference champions are determined by a process which does not all take into account out of conference performance (except in the case of close ties).
16 teams is way too much. It would include undeserving teams this year such as Troy - and frankly - LSU.
Here's an 8 team playoff that would work:
First round
Sugar - Alabama v Boise State
Orange- Cincinatti v TCU
Rose - Oregon v Ohio State
Fiesta - Texas v Florida
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