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re: Freeh report is out: "PSU showed 'total disregard' for Sandusky victims"
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:37 pm to hendersonshands
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:37 pm to hendersonshands
Michael Buckner, an attorney who specializes in NCAA cases, told ESPN.com's Joe Schad that the findings in the Freeh report don't necessarily violate NCAA rules.
"It documented a lack of institutional control (as it is generally defined and understood) at Penn State, but not the lack of control as defined in the NCAA Manual or articulated by the Committee on Infractions," Buckner said. "Naturally, (NCAA president Mark) Emmert could disregard this fact and pursue an unchartered and unsupported course of action. However, I would let the legal system (criminal and civil) do its job."
Oh and Paterno is dead...and if he was all-powerful as some claim, so is the culture. Nobody punishes a nation after a dictator is deposed.
"It documented a lack of institutional control (as it is generally defined and understood) at Penn State, but not the lack of control as defined in the NCAA Manual or articulated by the Committee on Infractions," Buckner said. "Naturally, (NCAA president Mark) Emmert could disregard this fact and pursue an unchartered and unsupported course of action. However, I would let the legal system (criminal and civil) do its job."
Oh and Paterno is dead...and if he was all-powerful as some claim, so is the culture. Nobody punishes a nation after a dictator is deposed.
This post was edited on 7/12/12 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:37 pm to Slinger16
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Mark May is proving to be the only non-brainwashed Penn St. alum on TV
He went to Pitt
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:38 pm to hendersonshands
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Atta boy Mark May. Finally some fricking sense.
Can someone recap, not watching live.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:38 pm to Slinger16
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Damn, Mark May is proving to be the only non-brainwashed Penn St. alum on TV.
Pitt not PSU
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:39 pm to hendersonshands
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Atta boy Mark May. Finally some fricking sense.
what is he saying?
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:41 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
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Archie Bengal Bunker
Are you against the DP for all violations in all programs?
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:42 pm to hendersonshands
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He went to Pitt
How could i forget that?
No wonder he is going after them so hard.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:42 pm to Chappy
Anyone have youtube clips of Matt Millen and other PSU defenders from this morning?
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:43 pm to CptBengal
Also, have they talked to Todd Blackledge? I like him on the game broadcasts and think he's pretty level headed, so I'm wondering what his perspective is on this.
I would also like to hear the following PSU connected folks comments (not really):
KiJana Carter
The TE that used to play for the Jets
Kerry Collins bartender
The Williams sister that used to date Lavar Arrington
I would also like to hear the following PSU connected folks comments (not really):
KiJana Carter
The TE that used to play for the Jets
Kerry Collins bartender
The Williams sister that used to date Lavar Arrington
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:43 pm to CptBengal
Basically what other sane people are sayong. It doesn't matter how much character he was said to possess, it's not ok to cover this up. Said if he had a son he would have to think hard about letting him go to Penn State because of the way the institution handled that situation.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:43 pm to Zamoro10
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Oh and Paterno is dead...and if he was all-powerful as some claim, so is the culture. Nobody punishes a nation after a dictator is deposed.
Agree. This wasn't a football problem, it was a university problem. Saying the football program should get the DP doesn't make a lot of sense. Hell, just close the school if you really want to punish the entity responsible.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:45 pm to Chappy
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Are you against the DP for all violations in all programs?
No the DP serves a purpose, just like the NCAA. The NCAA's purpose is not policing crimes; there are other avenues of recourse for crimes. There is no other recourse for recruiting violations. The NCAA has a set of rules, and when they feel that a program is abusing those rules and is not adhering to sanctions, then by all means kill the program. Blatantly and repeatedly cheating to gain a competitive like SMU did is completely different from what happened here. This crime is out of the NCAA's ballpark.
SMU was a repeat recruiting offender, and the program had to be shutdown to stop it. Shutting down PSU does what?
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:48 pm to LNCHBOX
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If I do something wrong while on the clock, my employer also bears liability for my actions. It should be the same thing here.
Yea, with a lawsuit, just like the kind PSU will face.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:49 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
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Shutting down PSU does what?
Makes them accountable for decades of covering up child rape?
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:50 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
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Yea, with a lawsuit, just like the kind PSU will face.
So you're ignoring that the employer in question is one under the NCAA's jurisdiction?
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:53 pm to LNCHBOX
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So you're ignoring that the employer in question is one under the NCAA's jurisdiction?
I don't think you understand the NCAA's jurisdiction...their authority and actions are prompted by violations prohibited in their manual/laws.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:53 pm to LNCHBOX
All of you attending universities need some perspective. Think if you were a student, do you deserve to pay for others' mistakes?
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:54 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
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This crime is out of the NCAA's ballpark.
As per Emmert. It's not.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:55 pm to RJYH
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All of you attending universities need some perspective. Think if you were a student, do you deserve to pay for others' mistakes?
This is retarded. USC was on probation due to Reggie Bush years after he left. Did those players deserve it?
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