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re: Freeh report is out: "PSU showed 'total disregard' for Sandusky victims"
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:12 am to Rickety Cricket
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:12 am to Rickety Cricket
I just finished the report and came over here to see what was being said...
I have to say that I hope Joe Paterno is burning in Hell for what he did...as an active participant in the cover-up, and for knowingly allowing it happen right under their noses since at least 1998.
I have absolutely zero empathy or respect for him or his legacy as of 10:45 this morning.
I have to say that I hope Joe Paterno is burning in Hell for what he did...as an active participant in the cover-up, and for knowingly allowing it happen right under their noses since at least 1998.
I have absolutely zero empathy or respect for him or his legacy as of 10:45 this morning.
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Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:13 am to Roughneck
Kill everyone in Pennsylvania. Kill everyone who's ever been to Pennsylvania. Kill anyone who's ever looked at a child. Kill anyone who's ever heard of a child. Kill anyone who's ever worn blue and white together. Kill everyone who has ever seen a lion.
This post was edited on 7/12/12 at 11:14 am
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:14 am to Damn Good Dawg
bail after being arraigned…PSU timeline: A year-by-year account of the sex scandal
CHRISTIAN RED
Sunday, November 13, 2011
1969: Jerry Sandusky begins his coaching career at Penn State University as defensive line coach.
1977: Sandusky founds The Second Mile, a charitable organization designed to help at-risk boys in the State College, Pa. region. Second Mile’s website says that over 100,000 boys and girls from all Pennsylvania counties participate in the organization’s programs annually. Sandusky is also promoted to Penn State’s defensive coordinator that same year.
Jan. 1, 1983: Penn State beats Georgia, 27-23, in Sugar Bowl for Joe Paterno’s first national title; Sandusky is team’s defensive coordinator.
Jan. 2, 1987: Penn State defeats Miami, 14-10, in Fiesta Bowl for Paterno’s second national title; Sandusky is team’s defensive coordinator.
1994: Boy known as Victim 7 in the grand jury presentment released last weekend meets Sandusky through Second Mile at “about the age of 10,” according to grand jury testimony.
1996-98: Boy known as Victim 5 in grand jury presentment is taken to the locker rooms and showers at Penn State by Sandusky when he is 8 to 10 years old, according to grand jury testimony.
1998: Boy known as Victim 6 in grand jury presentment is taken into the locker rooms and showers when he is 11 years old and showers with Sandusky, according to grand jury testimony. Sandusky lathers up boy and says, “I’m going to squeeze your guts out.” When Victim 6 is dropped off at his home, he tells his mother of the incident and she reports the information to university police, who investigate. Investigators eavesdrop on two conversations between the mother and Sandusky, and after one conversation, Sandusky asks for forgiveness, even telling the mother, “I wish I were dead.” Then Centre County district attorney Ray Gricar ultimately says no charges will be filed against Sandusky.
Summer 1999: Sandusky announces he will retire from Penn State at the end of the season. He will have emeritus status, maintain an office on campus and have access to all Penn State facilities.
Dec. 28, 1999: Boy known as Victim 4, is part of Sandusky’s family party for the 1999 Alamo Bowl in Texas, according to grand jury report.
Fall 2000: According to grand jury report, Penn State janitor named Jim Calhoun observes Sandusky in university’s Lasch Football Building showers with a young boy, Victim 8, pinned up against the wall, performing oral sex on the boy. He informs janitorial staff members. Employee Ronald Petrosky cleans the showers at Lasch and witnesses Sandusky and the boy, whom he describes as being between the ages of 11 and 13, exit holding hands. Calhoun, a temporary employee, never reports incident.
March 1, 2002: According to grand jury report, Penn State graduate assistant Mike McQueary enters the locker room at the Lasch Football Building. He witnesses Sandusky performing anal sex on boy, known as Victim 2, whose age he estimates at 10. McQueary tells his father, who advises him to tell Paterno. McQueary meets with Paterno the following morning.
March 3, 2002: According to the grand jury, Paterno calls Penn State athletic director Tim Curley, and tells Curley what he was told by McQueary. Paterno’s version is that McQueary had seen Sandusky “fondling or doing something of a sexual nature.” Later that month, McQueary meets with Curley and senior vice president for finance and business Gary Schultz. McQueary says he believes he witnessed Sandusky having anal sex. Curley and Schultz never report the incident to authorities.
April 15, 2005: Gricar, the Centre County DA, disappears after a trip to Lewisburg, Pa. His car is later found parked in a lot and his computer and hard drive are found in the Susquehanna River. The twice-divorced Gricar, 59, is never seen or heard from again. “It’s literally a mystery,” Bellefonte Borough Police Chief Shawn Weaver tells the Daily News in 2011. “The man vanished, period. No human trace has been found. There’s only one of three things that could have happened to him — a suicide, homicide or he just walked away.”
2007: According to the grand jury report, during the 2007 track season, Sandusky begins spending time with boy known as Victim 1. Victim 1 stays overnight at Sandusky’s home, and later testifies that Sandusky performs oral sex on him multiple times. Sandusky also brings Victim 1 onto PSU campus even though he was barred from bringing boys to the university after alleged 2002 incident.
Spring 2008: Victim 1 terminates contact with Sandusky, while a freshman at a Clinton County high school, according to grand jury report.
2009: Then-Pennsylvania attorney general Tom Corbett begins sexual abuse investigation of Sandusky.
September 2010: Sandusky retires from day-to-day involvement with The Second Mile.
Summer 2011: Lara Gricar, adopted daughter of Ray Gricar, successfully files petition to have her father declared deceased.
Nov. 5, 2011: Sandusky is arrested and released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts. Curley and Schultz are charged with perjury and failure to report the allegations.
Nov. 7, 2011: Pennsylvania attorney general Linda Kelly holds a press conference. She says Paterno is not a target of the investigation. Curley and Schultz surrender on charges and step down from their posts — Curley goes on administrative leave, while Schultz retires. State police chief Frank Noonan says there are “no heroes” in the investigation. Both Kelly and Noonan encourage other victims to come forward.
Nov. 8, 2011: Penn State cancels Paterno’s weekly press conference. Paterno tells reporters, “We’ll try to do it as soon as we can.” Reports swirl that Paterno will be ousted by Board of Trustees.
Nov. 9, 2011: Paterno announces he’ll retire at the end of the season. Late that evening, Board of Trustees votes to oust Paterno and Penn State president Graham Spanier in an announcement made by Board’s vice-chairman John Surma. Defensive coordinator Tom Bradley is named interim head coach. Riots erupt in the streets, as angry students throw rocks, tip over a TV news van and shout support for Paterno.
Nov. 10, 2011: University announces McQueary, a receivers coach with the team, will not be in attendance for Nov. 12 home game against Nebraska, due to threats the State College native has received.
Nov. 11, 2011: McQueary is placed on administrative leave.
Nov. 12, 2011: Despite late comeback, Penn State falls to Nebraska, 17-14, in first game since scandal hits.
THE PENN STATE SEX ABUSE SCANDAL
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CHRISTIAN RED
Sunday, November 13, 2011
1969: Jerry Sandusky begins his coaching career at Penn State University as defensive line coach.
1977: Sandusky founds The Second Mile, a charitable organization designed to help at-risk boys in the State College, Pa. region. Second Mile’s website says that over 100,000 boys and girls from all Pennsylvania counties participate in the organization’s programs annually. Sandusky is also promoted to Penn State’s defensive coordinator that same year.
Jan. 1, 1983: Penn State beats Georgia, 27-23, in Sugar Bowl for Joe Paterno’s first national title; Sandusky is team’s defensive coordinator.
Jan. 2, 1987: Penn State defeats Miami, 14-10, in Fiesta Bowl for Paterno’s second national title; Sandusky is team’s defensive coordinator.
1994: Boy known as Victim 7 in the grand jury presentment released last weekend meets Sandusky through Second Mile at “about the age of 10,” according to grand jury testimony.
1996-98: Boy known as Victim 5 in grand jury presentment is taken to the locker rooms and showers at Penn State by Sandusky when he is 8 to 10 years old, according to grand jury testimony.
1998: Boy known as Victim 6 in grand jury presentment is taken into the locker rooms and showers when he is 11 years old and showers with Sandusky, according to grand jury testimony. Sandusky lathers up boy and says, “I’m going to squeeze your guts out.” When Victim 6 is dropped off at his home, he tells his mother of the incident and she reports the information to university police, who investigate. Investigators eavesdrop on two conversations between the mother and Sandusky, and after one conversation, Sandusky asks for forgiveness, even telling the mother, “I wish I were dead.” Then Centre County district attorney Ray Gricar ultimately says no charges will be filed against Sandusky.
Summer 1999: Sandusky announces he will retire from Penn State at the end of the season. He will have emeritus status, maintain an office on campus and have access to all Penn State facilities.
Dec. 28, 1999: Boy known as Victim 4, is part of Sandusky’s family party for the 1999 Alamo Bowl in Texas, according to grand jury report.
Fall 2000: According to grand jury report, Penn State janitor named Jim Calhoun observes Sandusky in university’s Lasch Football Building showers with a young boy, Victim 8, pinned up against the wall, performing oral sex on the boy. He informs janitorial staff members. Employee Ronald Petrosky cleans the showers at Lasch and witnesses Sandusky and the boy, whom he describes as being between the ages of 11 and 13, exit holding hands. Calhoun, a temporary employee, never reports incident.
March 1, 2002: According to grand jury report, Penn State graduate assistant Mike McQueary enters the locker room at the Lasch Football Building. He witnesses Sandusky performing anal sex on boy, known as Victim 2, whose age he estimates at 10. McQueary tells his father, who advises him to tell Paterno. McQueary meets with Paterno the following morning.
March 3, 2002: According to the grand jury, Paterno calls Penn State athletic director Tim Curley, and tells Curley what he was told by McQueary. Paterno’s version is that McQueary had seen Sandusky “fondling or doing something of a sexual nature.” Later that month, McQueary meets with Curley and senior vice president for finance and business Gary Schultz. McQueary says he believes he witnessed Sandusky having anal sex. Curley and Schultz never report the incident to authorities.
April 15, 2005: Gricar, the Centre County DA, disappears after a trip to Lewisburg, Pa. His car is later found parked in a lot and his computer and hard drive are found in the Susquehanna River. The twice-divorced Gricar, 59, is never seen or heard from again. “It’s literally a mystery,” Bellefonte Borough Police Chief Shawn Weaver tells the Daily News in 2011. “The man vanished, period. No human trace has been found. There’s only one of three things that could have happened to him — a suicide, homicide or he just walked away.”
2007: According to the grand jury report, during the 2007 track season, Sandusky begins spending time with boy known as Victim 1. Victim 1 stays overnight at Sandusky’s home, and later testifies that Sandusky performs oral sex on him multiple times. Sandusky also brings Victim 1 onto PSU campus even though he was barred from bringing boys to the university after alleged 2002 incident.
Spring 2008: Victim 1 terminates contact with Sandusky, while a freshman at a Clinton County high school, according to grand jury report.
2009: Then-Pennsylvania attorney general Tom Corbett begins sexual abuse investigation of Sandusky.
September 2010: Sandusky retires from day-to-day involvement with The Second Mile.
Summer 2011: Lara Gricar, adopted daughter of Ray Gricar, successfully files petition to have her father declared deceased.
Nov. 5, 2011: Sandusky is arrested and released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts. Curley and Schultz are charged with perjury and failure to report the allegations.
Nov. 7, 2011: Pennsylvania attorney general Linda Kelly holds a press conference. She says Paterno is not a target of the investigation. Curley and Schultz surrender on charges and step down from their posts — Curley goes on administrative leave, while Schultz retires. State police chief Frank Noonan says there are “no heroes” in the investigation. Both Kelly and Noonan encourage other victims to come forward.
Nov. 8, 2011: Penn State cancels Paterno’s weekly press conference. Paterno tells reporters, “We’ll try to do it as soon as we can.” Reports swirl that Paterno will be ousted by Board of Trustees.
Nov. 9, 2011: Paterno announces he’ll retire at the end of the season. Late that evening, Board of Trustees votes to oust Paterno and Penn State president Graham Spanier in an announcement made by Board’s vice-chairman John Surma. Defensive coordinator Tom Bradley is named interim head coach. Riots erupt in the streets, as angry students throw rocks, tip over a TV news van and shout support for Paterno.
Nov. 10, 2011: University announces McQueary, a receivers coach with the team, will not be in attendance for Nov. 12 home game against Nebraska, due to threats the State College native has received.
Nov. 11, 2011: McQueary is placed on administrative leave.
Nov. 12, 2011: Despite late comeback, Penn State falls to Nebraska, 17-14, in first game since scandal hits.
THE PENN STATE SEX ABUSE SCANDAL
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This post was edited on 7/12/12 at 11:16 am
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:14 am to RollTigers
quote:
Kill everyone in Pennsylvania. Kill everyone who's ever been to Pennsylvania. Kill anyone who's ever looked at a child.
apparently that is the right response and if you don't agree you're a child rapist enabler here
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:16 am to Damn Good Dawg
Getting the NCAA involved is just looking for revenge and a pound of flesh, not justice.
The criminal system has more than enough resources and the means to punish everyone responsible in this situation. ETA well those still alive
There is nothing the NCAA can do to punish the people who actually did something wrong just the institute they worked for.
The criminal system has more than enough resources and the means to punish everyone responsible in this situation. ETA well those still alive
There is nothing the NCAA can do to punish the people who actually did something wrong just the institute they worked for.
This post was edited on 7/12/12 at 11:19 am
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:16 am to jacks40
quote:
Getting the NCAA involved is just looking for revenge and a pound of flesh, not justice.
The criminal system has more than enough resources and the means to punish everyone responsible in this situation.
There is nothing the NCAA can do to punish the people who actually did something wrong just the institute they worked for.
nope, burn state college down. it's the only way.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:18 am to Damn Good Dawg
quote:
Damn Good Dawg
we get your point. Stop being annoying.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:19 am to Elleshoe
quote:
Elleshoe
whats up pot, you're black
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:20 am to Damn Good Dawg
quote:
i am just arguing that the destruction of the football program and or school isn't right.
The football program should most certainly be punished. The only thing that could have been worse would have been covering up for a serial killer. Every university in the country needs to understand you don't cover up this type of crime to protect your program or your coach.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:20 am to jacks40
bullshite.
Every other profession is regulated. Under your logic there should be no bar or bar complaints as the criminal justice system can handle the bad apples. Same thing for Realtors, doctors, CPA's and the like for violating professional standards. Its no different, just a bigger scale.
I read the report. Death penalty. If this was a major law firm, their licenses would be revoked and the firm would be out of business.
Every other profession is regulated. Under your logic there should be no bar or bar complaints as the criminal justice system can handle the bad apples. Same thing for Realtors, doctors, CPA's and the like for violating professional standards. Its no different, just a bigger scale.
I read the report. Death penalty. If this was a major law firm, their licenses would be revoked and the firm would be out of business.
This post was edited on 7/12/12 at 11:22 am
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:20 am to Chappy
you're damn right their needs to be punishment but the death penalty doesn't need to be it and the NCAA needs to stay out of it
ETA: and with that said i gotta go pick up the truck from repairs, so pepper me at will
ETA: and with that said i gotta go pick up the truck from repairs, so pepper me at will
This post was edited on 7/12/12 at 11:22 am
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:21 am to Damn Good Dawg
quote:
whats up pot, you're black
you keep repeating the same shite in here. we get it. you don't think the NCAA needs to step in. kindly report back to the SECR where all rantards belong. Thanks. Have a great day.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:21 am to jacks40
quote:
There is nothing the NCAA can do to punish the people who actually did something wrong just the institute they worked for.
Then how about this...
Penn State gets to keep all their scholarships, but during recruiting visits the coaches are required to hang a sign in the shower room: "At least six young boys raped here."
That way, it's not about justice or revenge. It's just a fair warning to potential players. They should know. Those wet, tiled floors where they'll stand barefoot to rinse off after two-a-days? A little kid might have stood in that exact spot while he was raped.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:22 am to Damn Good Dawg
This is the Joe Pa not many know bout: "CNN reported how powerful an overlord Paterno was at Penn St. and how he & others round him bullied anyone who poked their noses into the running of the program, including the meting out of punishment to players who ran afoul of the law or rules. Vicky Triponey, then vice president of student affairs in charge of disciplining students, called Paterno's behavior " atrocious" in an email to then Penn St. president Graham Spanier and said " I am very troubled by the manipulative, disrespectful, uncivil & abusive behavior of our football coach". This was at the time that his players were getting arrested left & right over a 2 yr period. Triponey was subsequently terminated/resigned after losing her battle over who had the right to discipline students. His attitude was directed at a Vice President of the university. So, is there any wonder why the two janitors or a young grad assistant wanting a job would be intimidated by this HC?
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:22 am to Elleshoe
quote:
you keep repeating the same shite in here. we get it. you don't think the NCAA needs to step in. kindly report back to the SECR where all rantards belong. Thanks. Have a great day.
oh no, i disagree, i should run back to the SECr!!
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:23 am to Damn Good Dawg
I don't agree or disagree with your point. You just keep repeating the same shite. I thought you were leaving anyway...
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:24 am to Elleshoe
good point, see ya douches
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:25 am to Damn Good Dawg
quote:
you're damn right their needs to be punishment but the death penalty doesn't need to be it
What would warrant the DP, in your mind?
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:27 am to Chappy
quote:
What would warrant the DP, in your mind?
based on his posts,All of the fans, alumni, coaches and professors would have to have been involved.
because if one of them wasn't, then it;'s unfair.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:28 am to prplhze2000
quote:
Every other profession is regulated. Under your logic there should be no bar or bar complaints as the criminal justice system can handle the bad apples
Bar complaints are handled all the time that involve criminal conduct, so it's obviously not a two-way street.
When an attorney violates criminal law, for something that gets him disbarred it's bc State Bars have codes of conduct that are codified.
Also in those instances when a person is punished by both their professional regulators and the criminal system the punishments instituted are limited to those people. That wouldn't be the case here.
And don't give me collateral damage, if Joe Pas secretary gets fired bc Penn St. Fired Paterno and didn't have a spot for her that's collateral damage.
Asking the NCAA to intervene is directly looking to punish those not involved, it's purposely targeting them.
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