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re: Florida St (-2.5) vs. Notre Dame
Posted on 12/29/11 at 2:31 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Posted on 12/29/11 at 2:31 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:I'm glad someone was paying attention.
ahatta1
It was just a little trash talking.
But it does seem like a good topic.
Is there a reason for such an awful bowl run?
I'll address the question about ND's bowl history as it applies to this year.
Given their independent status and lack of specific bowl tie-ins, they aren't slotted by their conference ranking, and bowls can elect to pick them over the natural tie-in.
This tends to result in the ND brand playing a larger role in selection rather than the actualy quality of the team.
The bowl over-valuing ND results in them playing a better team and losing.
Although the personnel and coaching staff has changed over the years,
I'm simply implying that the bowl bias has not, and they are likely to have the same results.
(i.e. losing to a better team that was slotted appropriately).
This post was edited on 12/29/11 at 2:36 pm
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Posted on 12/29/11 at 3:14 pm to Mahootney
Well, they also had terrible matchups even when they were decent in recent years.
In 2001 Fiesta Bowl, they played the best Oregon State team probably ever with Chad Johnson.
In the 2006 Fiesta Bowl, they ran into an Ohio State team that was damn good and probably just about as good as the NC playing team the next year.
In 2007, they ran into the 2006 LSU Tigers, who many consider to be superior to the 2007 version that won the title the next year.
Thats some bad luck, and yes, a lot has to do with them being bumped into matchups they don't deserve as a team but because of their draw.
In 2001 Fiesta Bowl, they played the best Oregon State team probably ever with Chad Johnson.
In the 2006 Fiesta Bowl, they ran into an Ohio State team that was damn good and probably just about as good as the NC playing team the next year.
In 2007, they ran into the 2006 LSU Tigers, who many consider to be superior to the 2007 version that won the title the next year.
Thats some bad luck, and yes, a lot has to do with them being bumped into matchups they don't deserve as a team but because of their draw.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 3:30 pm to Mahootney
quote:
lack of specific bowl tie-ins
wrong
quote:
bowls can elect to pick them over the natural tie-in.
when has that ever happened in a non-bcs bowl?
Posted on 12/29/11 at 3:35 pm to rocket31
FSU all the way for me. ND has looked like garbage every time I watched them. If Manuel didn't get hurt against OU, I think FSU has a completely different season. Better athletes, better QB...FSU!
Posted on 12/29/11 at 3:49 pm to TigerTatorTots
TTT, I can't really decide which way I want to go but was thinking the 46.5 over might be a decent bet.....What 'cha think?
Posted on 12/29/11 at 3:51 pm to tiger114
ND +3
Betting on Brian Kelly basically
Betting on Brian Kelly basically
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:18 pm to sgallo3
FSU to cover.
I wish it were 1993 today.
I wish it were 1993 today.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:20 pm to Zamoro10
I like ND and the points plus I think Floyd has monster game. I think he and Blackmon are 1/1A in WR this year.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:36 pm to sms151t
Nice block in the back there not called
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:39 pm to DaBeerz
I would have liked to seen Collaros in this offense full time. Notre Dame would have been very good offensively.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:42 pm to sms151t
FSU!!!!
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:43 pm to ThugginItandLovinIt
frick ND. Sanctimonious pricks.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:43 pm to ThugginItandLovinIt
FSU with the INT!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:44 pm to touchdown moses
Turnovers story of the notre dame's season
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:46 pm to ThugginItandLovinIt
quote:
frick ND. Sanctimonious pricks.
lolercoaster
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:46 pm to bigt41
and then FSU gives it up
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:47 pm to rocket31
I'm on ND for a couple units, thank god they made up for that RZ INT
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:47 pm to rocket31
FSU just finds ways to lose lately. Lot like ND. There may not be any offensive td
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:48 pm to ThugginItandLovinIt
Thuggin' The Subway Alum loves them though, to bad you don't know about them.
This post was edited on 12/29/11 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:49 pm to rocket31
I honestly think the FSU-ND game hurt attendance of the Cap One bowl a little bit. All local support will go towards that game. Obviously the local team of FSU against a big name ND (regardless of their record) and 3 days later its an SC team, while ranked high and lead by Spurrier, still isn't a big name against the #20 ranked Nebraska team. Who is a bigger name than SC but not as big as they weere in previous decades.
And to support that this is the 1st ever sold out Champs Sports bowl where as I think the Cap One Bowl will be like 55,000 tickets sold out of 70,000 that the Citrus Bowl seats. And most of each school's allotment have been sold.
And to support that this is the 1st ever sold out Champs Sports bowl where as I think the Cap One Bowl will be like 55,000 tickets sold out of 70,000 that the Citrus Bowl seats. And most of each school's allotment have been sold.
This post was edited on 12/29/11 at 4:50 pm
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