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re: Fairgrounds Racing in danger?
Posted on 5/14/25 at 6:10 pm to Double Oh
Posted on 5/14/25 at 6:10 pm to Double Oh
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Yea Churchill doesn't like the Louisiana is free of HISA but there is nothing they can do about it. In fact if the Supreme Court rules in favor of HISA and Louisiana loses its lawsuit then there is a chance that Louisiana can opt out of HISA just like Texas did. Now that would really piss of CDI.
That's classic "cut off your nose to spite your face."
Those Texas tracks are finished. They have no handle; we're talking 3 figure handle for some exotics. Their purses are subsidized.
And who the heck is Louisiana, the mecca of crooked racing, to stand on its high horse and reject HISA.
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 6:20 pm to Overbrook
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Those Texas tracks are finished. They have no handle; we're talking 3 figure handle for some exotics. Their purses are subsidized.
Texas is fine. They haven't missed a beat. If they were in trouble you would of done heard about it.
When HISA has retarded rules and they want to be funded by the tracks and horseman they yea every state should of rejected them
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:05 pm to LSUFanHouston
Cdi made money from its oaks and derby handle. They own the FG, and the OTB's that have video poker machines for almost 20 years. Its Louisiana thay started CDI to get into the gaming business. ALOT of money was sent to Louisville from Louisiana to do many upgrades to the track.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 12:27 pm to Overbrook
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And who the heck is Louisiana, the mecca of crooked racing, to stand on its high horse and reject HISA.
Do you actually know anything about Louisiana racing or are you just being critical because its...Louisiana? There are shitheads in every state- Bob Baffert being one- and he doesn't call La. home. And the dark side of racing isn't unique to Louisiana. Every track in every state has the same problems.
HISA is well intentioned, but typical of overreaching regulation. Its not opposed because "everyone" is lawless and crooked. Its opposed because (some) industry participants find it overbearing. Louisiana isn't the only state opposed to it, either.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 3:07 pm to slidingstop
Do you know anything about racing? In the Preakness thread you were jumping in on the walking horse pads and soring as if it is in any way relevant to the Preakness conversation.
If we were talking about reining futurities, I’d probably defer to your expertise based on your name, but even that end of the horse world has its issues.
I do not believe for a second HISA is well intentioned. It is a bunch of government people trying to run something they don’t understand. On the surface the idea works, but instead you see varying levels of punishment depending upon who is a bigger name. They definitely go after the small guys to show “they are doing something to clean up racing” so they can leave the big guys alone. No consistency. And I’m glad the ridiculous whip rule is coming under fire.
If we were talking about reining futurities, I’d probably defer to your expertise based on your name, but even that end of the horse world has its issues.
I do not believe for a second HISA is well intentioned. It is a bunch of government people trying to run something they don’t understand. On the surface the idea works, but instead you see varying levels of punishment depending upon who is a bigger name. They definitely go after the small guys to show “they are doing something to clean up racing” so they can leave the big guys alone. No consistency. And I’m glad the ridiculous whip rule is coming under fire.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 4:20 pm to Aspercel
My familiarity with racing is from a familial perspective. I do not claim to be a trainer, owner, or even a hot walker (although I did that too). My question to the OP wasn't confrontational. I was simply trying to determine if they had any actual familiarity with Louisiana racing since they seem to be critical of it .
There isn't a single discipline in the equine world that doesn't have its issues.
If money is involved, there will be people trying to get an advantage in whatever way they can. Nothing unique there either.
I wouldn't go that far. I think its the right idea, wrong execution. I'm also not convinced that its even necessary inasmuch as regulation is a state responsibility. To that point, even the lower courts have agreed.
as to my reply in the Preakness thread, if there is some rule regarding thread participation please ask Chicken to post it. Didn't mean to upset you.
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If we were talking about reining futurities, I’d probably defer to your expertise based on your name, but even that end of the horse world has its issues
There isn't a single discipline in the equine world that doesn't have its issues.
If money is involved, there will be people trying to get an advantage in whatever way they can. Nothing unique there either.
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I do not believe for a second HISA is well intentioned. It is a bunch of government people trying to run something they don’t understand.
I wouldn't go that far. I think its the right idea, wrong execution. I'm also not convinced that its even necessary inasmuch as regulation is a state responsibility. To that point, even the lower courts have agreed.
as to my reply in the Preakness thread, if there is some rule regarding thread participation please ask Chicken to post it. Didn't mean to upset you.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 12:11 am to slidingstop
The Preakness is wide open. He had no excuse in the Derby, and got beat. Asmussen horse is one to keep an eye on. Hit the ALL button and see what happens.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:54 am to ChestRockwell
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I can honestly care less,
A lot less?
Posted on 5/16/25 at 7:11 am to biglego
Re to Churchill. Its all a bluff to squeeze more money from Louisiana and it ain't going to happen.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 7:13 am to Double Oh
Gulfstream is garbage for 9 months out the year. And that's a stretch. Wait till they run 4 horse fields in NY on tapeta once Belmont reopens.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 12:52 pm to ChestRockwell
I heard Churchill is asking for 20 million to run the FG meet this year
Posted on 6/3/25 at 12:59 pm to slidingstop
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I wouldn't go that far. I think its the right idea, wrong execution
You are 100% correct.
We need to change the rules as a whole. But the HISA rules are retarded and nobody agrees with them and they wont change. Plus tracks and the horseman should NOT fund HISA as they are doing now. It's retarded.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 1:03 pm to ChestRockwell
Horse racing is trashy
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 6/3/25 at 1:42 pm to danilo
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Horse racing is trashy
Lol weak arse troll
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:34 pm to Double Oh
They can ask whatever they want but Louisiana is holding the cards. Its a total bluff by CD.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:48 pm to ChestRockwell
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They can ask whatever they want but Louisiana is holding the cards. Its a total bluff by CD.
100% total bluff. But what our legislature and Racing Commission do is a different story. They corrupt to the max
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