- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Eli Manning Is The Worst QB to ever Win a SB
Posted on 12/28/15 at 7:29 am to Volmanac
Posted on 12/28/15 at 7:29 am to Volmanac
quote:
TT9 is an obsessed gimmick poster. He is an Alabama and Patriots fan. How that happens, I don't know. I'd be shocked if he has ever been to the New England region.
Just his thing. Go against popular opinion on every board.
0
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:33 am to TigersHuskers
He will one day be the worst modern day QB in the Hall of Fame.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:37 am to TigersHuskers
And if he wins three, or four will he still be the worst?
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:47 am to Haughton99
quote:
He will one day be the worst modern day QB in the Hall of Fame.
NY Giants have the statistically worst defense in the NFL this year.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 11:33 am to TigersHuskers
quote:
Eli Manning Is The Worst QB to ever Win a SB
kill yourself
Posted on 12/28/15 at 11:34 am to Roger Klarvin
quote:
and Bradshaw don't.
You are an idiot for saying Bradsahaw doesn't deserve to be in the HOF...You are just another young poster that goes just by stats.....
Posted on 12/28/15 at 11:42 am to SportsGuyNOLA
If the Mannings were not from the NOLA area there wouldn't be such an intense circle jerk over them on here.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 12:23 pm to lsufan112001
quote:
I believe EM has the most road playoff wins in history as a QB
I'd need to see some stats on that, but it is partly misleading since better QBs help their teams win enough games that they get some home playoff games and or a bye and don't have to win as many road games to get deep in the playoffs.
quote:
He's decent in the regular season. But way better come playoff time
see, he's not. He had 2 nice playoff runs and 3 times he was 1 and done and pretty awful.
LINK
Posted on 12/28/15 at 12:52 pm to TigersHuskers
Sounds like you're a loser.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 1:45 pm to Ponchy Tiger
quote:
Your insane. Doug Williams had one of the greatest days in super bowl history against the worst defense in super bowl history. He deserves credit but beyond that he was terrible. Look at his career stats. You can't even call him mediocre.
Guy is overstating Doug's career ,but he certainly did more in that wreck of a franchise than Steve Young(Tampa nearly derailed Young's career).
Doug won several playoff games in expansion Tampa ( took them to the NFC Championships) & I admit they had damn good defenses.
But Bobby Hebert had some of the greatest defenses in the League( secondary was the weak link) ,but could never win a playoff game in New Orleans. The " Cajun Cannon " with a pop gun arm.
Williams was SLIGHTlY better than mediocre & I would certainly take him over Dilfer
( not saying much) or the Cajun Cannon( all things equal). But I did hear Williams & Marino mentioned in the same post. That's going too far.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 1:48 pm to sugar71
I said Williams had the skills of Marino and put him in that Miami (84-89) offense or the Raiders offense he would flourish. Marino quickened his release as injuries hit, especially after tearing his Achilles.
The Marks Bros were downfield stretch the field not much intermediate stuff until after Duper left.
The Marks Bros were downfield stretch the field not much intermediate stuff until after Duper left.
This post was edited on 12/28/15 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 12/28/15 at 1:58 pm to hbuc88
quote:
Sounds like you're a loser.
No. I just speak the truth, and many people dont like to hear the truth.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 2:02 pm to sms151t
quote:and this is where I stopped reading
I said Williams had the skills of Marino
Posted on 12/28/15 at 2:06 pm to sugar71
quote:
Doug won several playoff games in expansion Tampa ( took them to the NFC Championships
he won 1 playoff game in Tampa, 1979 they beat Philly and then lost to the Rams. They made the playoffs 2 more times, 81 and 82 and were 1 and done.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 2:08 pm to TigersHuskers
quote:
No. I just speak the truth, and many people dont like to hear the truth.
This is the type of stuff people say when they can't make a rational argument.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 2:13 pm to sms151t
quote:
I said Williams had the skills of Marino and put him in that Miami (84-89) offense or the Raiders offense he would flourish. Marino quickened his release as injuries hit, especially after tearing his Achilles.
The Marks Bros were downfield stretch the field not much intermediate stuff until after Duper left.
Doug Williams certainly had a big arm & I do think he would fair well in those type offenses.
Williams had that Jeff George type 'live arm' tailor made for those type offenses instead of ball control dink & dunk type offenses.
But Steve Young's far more disastrous career in Tampa than Doug's proves your point about Williams going to a really bad situation.
I just can't accurately state how good Williams would be with that offense / Clayton /Duper,etc....,but his career & stats certainly change for the positive.
I think the Redskins offense was somewhat similar,( downfield passing) but better able to run due to the HOGGS . A good fit & Doug nearly had a 100 passer rating that season & the playoffs.
Just think young Doug going into that situation instead of 33 year old Doug who eventually suffered a back injury after the SuperBowl?
Posted on 12/28/15 at 3:10 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:
he won 1 playoff game in Tampa, 1979 they beat Philly and then lost to the Rams. They made the playoffs 2 more times, 81 and 82 and were 1 and done.
He went to the NFC championship & won 1 more playoff game on an expansion franchise & had a better career in Tampa than Steve Young. He won one more game than Bobby Hebert despite the Saints historic front 7 & League leading defense .
I don't know if you remember,but all 3 teams that won their division only had to win 2 playoff games to reach the SuperBowl. All 3 division winners got a bye & Doug lead them to a BYE week.
Did I mention that Doug Williams had more success in expansion Tampa than the horrid Steve Young?
I never said Williams was elite or anything . Off the top of my head I thought he won a couple playoff games in Tampa ,but making it to the the NFC Championships & 3 playoff appearances in expansion Tampa is a decent achievement.
The first thing about the 82 BUcs I read online is that " they had a mediocre line & no feature running back", but were considered a serious contender with Williams.
Can we at least agree that 3 playoff appearances/ NFC Championship in 5 years on a horrid expansion franchise is a decent achievement?
This post was edited on 12/28/15 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 12/28/15 at 4:42 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:
He doesn't belong in the HOF though, just like Namath and Bradshaw don't.
Bradshaw? WTF?
Posted on 12/28/15 at 9:12 pm to sugar71
quote:
He went to the NFC championship & won 1 more playoff game on an expansion franchise & had a better career in Tampa than Steve Young. He won one more game than Bobby Hebert despite the Saints historic front 7 & League leading defense .
Are you related to Doug Williams?
First off, I'm not sure why you keep bring up Hebert (because he played for the Saints and this is an LSU board or because both went to 1AA colleges in Louisiana?) Yeah, 1-3 os better than 0-3, but only marginally. It is not the mic drop you are making it out to be. For starters not all seasons are created equal, some years a conference is harder than others. Also you keep saying expansion team, but it was their 4th year and while it was a nice turnaround after starting 0-26, they were 7-11 the year and 2 games after the 0-26 start and 10-6 in 79, the year they went to the NFCCG but were back to 5-10-1 the year after that. It is a nice accomplishment but going from 5 wins to 10 is not some end all be all, in fact a team goes from 10 losses to 10 wins the next year pretty much every year. And while they did make the pl;ayoffs 3 years with Williams, one of those was the strike year in 82 when they expanded the playoffs from 5 teams to 8 per conference. Tampa was not in the top 5 that year. Overall Hebert's stats are much better (Williams completed 41.8% of his passes in 79
) and hebert had an overall much better record 49-26 vs 33-33-1 and the Saints had 4 10 wins seasons vs just 1 for Williams. quote:
Did I mention that Doug Williams had more success in expansion Tampa than the horrid Steve Young?
Yes, but I'm not sure why
Young started all of 19 games for Tampa, that's not even 1 1/3 seasons. At least compare him to Vinny who was bad in Tampa, especially his first 3-4 yearsThis post was edited on 12/28/15 at 9:15 pm
Page 3 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News