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re: Drew Bledsoe: Tom Brady benefited greatly from his system unlike Manning, Elway
Posted on 2/4/15 at 12:32 pm to Chad504boy
Posted on 2/4/15 at 12:32 pm to Chad504boy
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Give Brady Terrell Davis those 2 yrs
Give Elway The Hoodie, any of the Pats D,Adam Vinetari or Randy Moss.
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 12:32 pm to Groot
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Who made the game winning plays in the 4 Super Bowls: Brady or someone else? Answer that for me Brady nuthuggers.
I missed the part where Vinatieri brought them down the field and got them into FG range against St. Louis and Carolina.
I also missed the part where Brady gave up the helmet catch to Tyree and had nothing to do with scoring the go-ahead TD against Seattle.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:20 pm to Bench McElroy
Joe Montana was a system quarterback. Nothing more, nothing less.
He benefitted from a forward-thinking offensive genius head coach and offense AND defense loaded with stars.
He does NOT belong in the same conversation with a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady and is NOT a Top 5 overall quarterback.
He benefitted from a forward-thinking offensive genius head coach and offense AND defense loaded with stars.
He does NOT belong in the same conversation with a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady and is NOT a Top 5 overall quarterback.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:24 pm to Feral
Again, who made the game winning plays: Brady or those other guys?
Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:30 pm to BayouBengals03
You seem smart. Brady put them ahead (well Edelman did with two little push offs) and then Butler finished it.
Point is, if Vinatieri misses those two kicks and the Patriots lose in over time without getting ball or Harrison doesn't pick off McNabb when they are driving or butler miss times the jump, are we still having this talk about Brady?
Again, if it wasn't for the tuck rule or Bledsoe, Brady never even makes that first Super Bowl. This talk about Brady being the best quarterback of all time is just silly. He isn't the best talent, he doesn't have the best production and he hasn't had the best career either.
He's a really good quarterback and certainly has a place waiting for him in the Hall as a first ballot guy, but this talk as him as the best quarterback of all time when he is safely outside of the top ten of all time is just silly.
Point is, if Vinatieri misses those two kicks and the Patriots lose in over time without getting ball or Harrison doesn't pick off McNabb when they are driving or butler miss times the jump, are we still having this talk about Brady?
Again, if it wasn't for the tuck rule or Bledsoe, Brady never even makes that first Super Bowl. This talk about Brady being the best quarterback of all time is just silly. He isn't the best talent, he doesn't have the best production and he hasn't had the best career either.
He's a really good quarterback and certainly has a place waiting for him in the Hall as a first ballot guy, but this talk as him as the best quarterback of all time when he is safely outside of the top ten of all time is just silly.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:39 pm to Groot
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when he is safely outside of the top ten of all time is just silly.
Now we're getting somewhere.
"Safely outside the top ten" implies that he's fifteen or even later on your list.
So...who's in your top fifteen?
Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:40 pm to Groot
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You seem smart. Brady put them ahead (well Edelman did with two little push offs) and then Butler finished it.
Point is, if Vinatieri misses those two kicks and the Patriots lose in over time without getting ball or Harrison doesn't pick off McNabb when they are driving or butler miss times the jump, are we still having this talk about Brady?
Again, if it wasn't for the tuck rule or Bledsoe, Brady never even makes that first Super Bowl. This talk about Brady being the best quarterback of all time is just silly. He isn't the best talent, he doesn't have the best production and he hasn't had the best career either.
He's a really good quarterback and certainly has a place waiting for him in the Hall as a first ballot guy, but this talk as him as the best quarterback of all time when he is safely outside of the top ten of all time is just silly.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:51 pm to Walking the Earth
10 guys I would safely say are better than Brady in no order:
Manning
Marino
Elway
Montana
Young
Fouts
Tarkenton
Rodgers
Favre
Brees
I have arguments for Moon, Unitas, Graham, Aikman, Kelly, and Warner as well.
Manning
Marino
Elway
Montana
Young
Fouts
Tarkenton
Rodgers
Favre
Brees
I have arguments for Moon, Unitas, Graham, Aikman, Kelly, and Warner as well.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:57 pm to Groot
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Point is, if Vinatieri misses those two kicks and the Patriots lose in over time without getting ball or Harrison doesn't pick off McNabb when they are driving or butler miss times the jump, are we still having this talk about Brady?
What if Eli Manning doesn't pull off two of the most miraculous plays in Super Bowl history?
You're literally playing the "what if" game, and then getting mad at others whenever they do the same thing.
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Again, if it wasn't for the tuck rule or Bledsoe, Brady never even makes that first Super Bowl.
Another "what if."
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ut this talk as him as the best quarterback of all time when he is safely outside of the top ten of all time is just silly.
As I've told another Brady-hater in another thread, you could trade Brady's postseason accomplishments with Peyton Mannings (1-2 in Super Bowls, less than stellar playoff record), and Brady would still be an all-time great quarterback. Top 10, easily.
Brady is a 2x MVP. Only 8 quarterbacks in the history of football can say that. And both of his MVP seasons were top 10 seasons for a quarterback in the history of the sport.
Saying he is safely outside the top 10 is literally laughable.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:58 pm to Groot
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Young
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Fouts
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Brees
Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:03 pm to Groot
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I have arguments for Moon, Unitas, Graham, Aikman, Kelly, and Warner as well.
Oh shite. I missed this gem.
First off, the fact that Unitas isn't in your top 10 is pretty remarkable.
Secondly, there are zero arguments for Moon, Aikman, and Warner over Brady.
Aikman is the funniest thing I've ever heard.
Jim Kelly was a great quarterback. However, you'd be hard-pressed to argue him over Brady.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:08 pm to Groot
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Groot
Please explain to me a situation in which you would give Brady credit for a win? Feel free to be as imaginative as possible for I know how hard it will be to look past you irrational hate of him and come up with a positive thing to say
Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:10 pm to BayouBengals03
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Oh shite. I missed this gem.
Yeah, that last bit was enough to convince me to parachute on out of this thread.
Brady is definitely not as good as Brees, Fouts or Tarkenton but he will go along with him maybe being better than Unitas.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:08 pm to Groot
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Groot
Just reading through the thread and all I have to say is that you are easily one of the most irrational idiots that posts here. Congratulations.
As someone who was an Oilers fan as a kid, I would love to hear your argument for Warren Moon as a better QB than Brady.
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:41 pm to rlebl39
I was going to break it down for you simpletons when I got home, but you are the kind of ignorant that I prefer not to deal with. Ignorance is bliss so enjoy your happiness.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:49 pm to rlebl39
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As someone who was an Oilers fan as a kid, I would love to hear your argument for Warren Moon as a better QB than Brady.
Warren Moon GOAT spiral.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:14 pm to FootballNostradamus
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What Brady did in the second half of the AFCDG against Baltimore and the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl against Seattle was legendary. He basically told everyone "hold my dick guys, I got this". Fvck the running game. Fvck balance. Fvck a bunch of crazed playoff psychos in Baltimore and the greatest secondary in sports in Seattle. I got this folks. GOAT
Not to mention driving his team down the field for late 4th quarter leads in his two SB losses, only to have his defense piss it away with no time left on the clock.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:23 pm to SmackoverHawg
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Not to mention driving his team down the field for late 4th quarter leads in his two SB losses, only to have his defense piss it away with no time left on the clock.
don't be too hard on his D in those games.
Did you see the catches in the Giants game?
all time.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:26 pm to Groot
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Manning
Marino
Elway
Montana
Young
Fouts
Tarkenton
Rodgers
Favre
Brees
I have arguments for Moon, Unitas, Graham, Aikman, Kelly, and Warner as well.
Come on man, are you really this stupid?
What you have against SB winners? By your logic I guess Nolan Ryan is the greatest pitcher of all time.
I am a Saints fan and think lot of Brees, I was huge Marino fan, I even liked Farve, but they are not even in the same conversation as Brady.
Brady
Montana
Bradshaw
Everyone else
Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:47 pm to BayouBengals03
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Oh shite. I missed this gem.
I can't stop laughing either....I'm getting a gamecock alum vibe from this guy.
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