re: Does Everybody Now Agree that Serena is the Best Ever?

She is an arrogant prick.

yup

Like with the Men's game - you wish certain players overlapped.

80's was all Chris and Martina because everyone else blew. Sabatini was hot (for tennis) but just ok...and then you had Pam Shriver and a bunch of weak little girls and awkward cry-baby Eastern Euros.

You have to remember, women were just turning the corner into becoming athletes...Title IX was fresh ink...tennis in the 60's/70's was dainty and pretty and Tracy Austiny. Martina started destroying her competition because she actually trained like an athlete.

It would have been nice to see Serena and Graf and Seles and Hingis overlap in their primes.

Serena would most likely be just too damn powerful for Martina to handle on volley considering she had trouble with Evert.

Graf was the about the only one who could hang with Serena and her power.

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Monica deserves to be mentioned even if her career basically ended at 19. She was incredible

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Smart poster. She was objectively better than Steffi...and then she got stabbed.

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Grand Slams:
Steffi 22
Serena 15

That's not a yuppie thing, that's just the scoreboard man.

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Hard-hitting analysis.

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How many of Grafs titles came after the Seles stabbing?????????

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Loads

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Graf was the about the only one who could hang with Serena and her power.

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Seles had a great return of serve. I would be interested to see if it would hold up against Serena's serve.

Steffi would have given Serena the most problems because of the way she covered the court, and because her slicing groundies would fare better against Serena's serve than Seles' full on attack-mode swings.

Serena would have made Martina look silly. Anyone who writes otherwise has no clue what they're talking about. And Chrissie wouldn't have given her a match. The first moonball Chrissie throws up is getting taken out of the air for a clean winner. Rinse. Lather. Repeat.

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Regrettably I never got to see her live in action, being that I wasnt strutting around this terrible earth until mid 1991, but I've seen highlights and can obviously read statistics. Bitch was bad. Tennis got robbed. I've read some other people's opinions on the matter and some seem to believe she would've only won 3 or 4 more, but I just don't see how that is possible, especially since she managed to win one even after the stabbing. Oh well, no fun to play the "what could've been" game

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What's the argument that she was only going to win 3 or 4 more? She was improving and was completely dominating Steffi. I'm not sure if she had even turned 20 years old at that point.

To this day I've never seen anybody play tennis like Seles. The angles she hit off both sides were really remarkable. Really sharp, aggressive angles with seemingly every shot. When she played Graf, it was as if she had her on a string.

1) the link within the link: LINK

serena's right arm here almost looks like that photoshopped tebow on the driving range.


2) best ever needs to be defined. while i may not have the greatest memory, but other than the serena slam year, i am not sure how many other years she was dominating result-wise. sure, you can have great individual match records with all of the good ones but I would like to see (and I am not going to pull it up) is a year to year review of her indicating: (1) year end ranking and (2) majors won that year. post that and see if one would consider that resume as a "best ever" i doubt it. On the other hand, if one would say who would you select for 1 match or a best of 3 (5, 7 series), then yes, i probably would say serena, but that is not how you define best ever in tennis