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re: Discuss: IS Jameis Winston another JaMarcus Russell??
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:25 pm to JBeam
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:25 pm to JBeam
quote:Does it matter? Winston had a freak of nature 1st round pick, most QB friendly guy ever(Greene), maybe the best TE in the country, and a mix of elite recruits to throw to. Add Cook and an offensive line that will make a shite ton of NFL starts and you have a near perfect scenario.
I'd say EJ Manuel had more talent around him than Winston
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:31 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:Won't argue with you there. Benjamin is a great talent
Winston had a freak of nature 1st round pick
quote:We will see how he performs without Winston.
most QB friendly guy ever(Greene)
quote:Exaggeration. O'Leary was good. But I'd say Winston made him look better than he actually was.
maybe the best TE in the country
quote:That's all speculation at this point. Currently, only three guys that Winston played with have been drafted and only one went in the 1st Rd.
Add Cook and an offensive line that will make a shite ton of NFL starts and you have a near perfect scenario.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:32 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:You sure about that? Won't they have 4 drafted from the line this year?
Lost a lot on OL and no Kelvin Benjamin to bail him out.
And I'm not buying KB leaving as why he damn near threw the most picks in the FBS. Dude had a lot on his plate last year.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:35 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
You sure about that? Won't they have 4 drafted from the line this year?
And I'm not buying KB leaving as why he damn near threw the most picks in the FBS. Dude had a lot on his plate last year.
He did lose OL from 2013. OL is a unit and his 2014 unit was not close to 2013.
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And I'm not buying KB leaving as why he damn near threw the most picks in the FBS. Dude had a lot on his plate last year.
Having a massive ROY candidate WR to throw jump balls to definitely helped his lower his INT numbers a lot. That was his safety every play.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:37 pm to TheCaterpillar
Look, I wouldn't touch Jameis with a top 5 pick, I'm just talking here.
I wouldn't take him because of his maturity and my belief he won't be a good "face of a franchise" like a top 5 pick QB should be.
His on the field performance isn't why.
ETA:
Although his turnovers and forcing of passes is certainly of concern, if he had Luck or Wilson's maturity level, I would write it off.
I wouldn't take him because of his maturity and my belief he won't be a good "face of a franchise" like a top 5 pick QB should be.
His on the field performance isn't why.
ETA:
Although his turnovers and forcing of passes is certainly of concern, if he had Luck or Wilson's maturity level, I would write it off.
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:37 pm to JBeam
I don't really agree with any of that 
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:41 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:This doesn't make him look very good
Having a massive ROY candidate WR to throw jump balls to definitely helped his lower his INT numbers a lot. That was his safety every play
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:42 pm to TheCaterpillar
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And Jamarcus was very efficient as our QB in 2006. He was very damn good at LSU and not just because he was talented.
Jamarcus could have succeeded had he done the work, so let's stop the comparison. Don't try to push Jamarcus's failures onto Winston's shoulders just because they are the "same build".
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:43 pm to SabiDojo
quote:
Jamarcus could have succeeded had he done the work, so let's stop the comparison. Don't try to push Jamarcus's failures onto Winston's shoulders just because they are the "same build".
I agree. TOTALLY different personalities too.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:43 pm to TheCaterpillar
From what I saw in a documentary, Jamarcus has been suffering from depression for a long time.
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:43 pm to SabiDojo
quote:It's a lazy comparison. Only thing is common is size and body type.
Jamarcus could have succeeded had he done the work, so let's stop the comparison. Don't try to push Jamarcus's failures onto Winston's shoulders just because they are the "same build".
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:48 pm to boom roasted
You teaching me how to poach eggs has changed my life
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:50 pm to SabiDojo
Get a room
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:50 pm to SabiDojo
Poached eggs and toast/french bread is the shite. My favorite breakfast.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:52 pm to boom roasted
Drop em in boiling water that has a cap of white vinegar in it then scoop em out?
Thats how I do it, but I frick it up sometimes.
Thats how I do it, but I frick it up sometimes.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:55 pm to TheCaterpillar
Little less than boiling. I leave out the vinegar. Clouds the water and I didn't see much difference in keeping the egg together. It all about the timing. Too little time in the water is better than too much time. For me at least. I hate poached eggs with hard yolks.
Took me a few tries to get it down.
Busting the yolk is one of the simple pleasures in life.
Took me a few tries to get it down.
Busting the yolk is one of the simple pleasures in life.
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 4/24/15 at 1:00 pm to boom roasted
Posted on 4/24/15 at 1:01 pm to SouthernInsanity
quote:
Even if he's a bust, i don't think he takes the title of the biggest NFL bust because the money spent on rookies isn't what it used to be.
Judging NFL busts by their contract size where every year created even bigger contracts is dumb to begin with.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 1:03 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:I don't necessarily agree but I see the logic behind it.
Judging NFL busts by their contract size where every year created even bigger contracts is dumb to begin with.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 1:09 pm to boom roasted
I love it with ezekiel bread or rye bread
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