re: Death to the BCS

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That format is better than just the top 16 or top 8

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how?

playoffs should aim to give the best teams playoff entitlements, not reward some division that has no relation to anything

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It's also the only system that the NCAA would agree to if they become involved like in every other sport.

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i don't think CFB wants the NCAA fricking up the only sport that really turns profits in most places

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As for the conferences, at least the current AQ conferences would require an auto-bid for their champ, mainly because of revenue distribution.

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well, the ACC and Big East really have no leg to stand on anymore

the big10 and SEC wouldn't require this, knowing they're going to eventually dominate the money

so it comes down to the pac10 and big12

the big12 is about to dissolve, and the pac10 is in no man's land and cares more about the rose bowl than anything else

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a committee = no rules. no accountability.

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You're insane. Given that we know how NCAA committess act in EVERY other sport, it's borderline slander to say that an NCAA fotball committee would just randoml select teams. given the job the committees do in other NCAA sanctioned sports, including lower division football, I find it nearly impossible to argue AGAINST a committee. They do, on the whole, a very good job in all of the other sports. There is literally no reason to believe a similar committee would deviate from this high standard of performance.

Well, other than just bizarre tin-foil rants. I find most rants against possible playoffs to be strawman arguments or arguments against a system created that is even more illogical than the BCS, which is hard to do.

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it's borderline slander to say that an NCAA fotball committee would just randoml select teams.

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did i say that?

i said no rules and no accountability. not random selection

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I find it nearly impossible to argue AGAINST a committee. They do, on the whole, a very good job in all of the other sports.

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too much money at stake for men behind the curtain to make the choices

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I find most rants against possible playoffs to be strawman arguments or arguments against a system created that is even more illogical than the BCS, which is hard to do.

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like i said. when a single, logical playoff system is developed, it's fair to argue

it's hard to not use strawmen of sorts when those opposin playoffs are opposing hypotheticals, with each person's suggestion typically having different angles than the others

there are 2 main, simple reasons why playoffs are going to be tough to do

1. division of money
2. where the games are played

this isn't even getting into # of teams, qualifications, etc

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too much money at stake for men behind the curtain to make the choices

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Because there's no money at stake in basketball. Look, there's a reason the NCAA doesn't recognize a football champion. It's an indictment of the system.

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there are 2 main, simple reasons why playoffs are going to be tough to do

1. division of money
2. where the games are played

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Somehow they manage to split the money in basketball, and there are far more "have not conferences" to outvote the major conferences. I find that argument to be unconvincing on its face. would they have to hammer it out? sure. But it's not an obstacle so large as to prevent a playoff. #2 is ridiculous. Clearly, the games would have to be played at home sites, just like in the other divisions. The only question is whether the semifinals would be an eutral site on top of the title game.

Every, and I do mean every, serious playoff proposal involves home sites. they somehow pull off this massive logistical feat in Division III. Somehow, I think they can pull it off in D-1.

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A team like USCe this year winning the SECCG or LSU in 2001 are why I hate CCG, but if that's who the SEC wants to get the auto bid, that's their choice.

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Agreed. To be clear, this isn't a problem with the BCS or a mythical playoff, this is a problem with independent conferences having crazy ways to crown their champ. But that is their right. The NCAA doesn't interfere in how a confernece crowns their champion.

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Because there's no money at stake in basketball.

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getting in march madness means shite compared to getting in a playoff game

especially if you get a home game. that's like $5-6M in revenue, which is a good chunk of a basketball team's budget

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Look, there's a reason the NCAA doesn't recognize a football champion. It's an indictment of the system.

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because they only recognize playoff systems with at least 16 participants, i believe

there is also a reason why the NCAA doesn't really tell conferences how it should crown a champ

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Somehow they manage to split the money in basketball,

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CFB funds most athletic departments. BBall rarely even makes money. apples and oranges.

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and there are far more "have not conferences" to outvote the major conferences.

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small conferences in football leech off the producers. they know where the money to fund their athletic departments is located (and it's not in their own generation of revenue)

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would they have to hammer it out? sure. But it's not an obstacle so large as to prevent a playoff.

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dude, in the book in the title of this thread, it suggests $25M per team, per round. that's a shite-ton of money

ESPECIALLY when you add in possible home games (which is a necessity when you move to more than 8 teams)

there is no way the SEC and Big10 would share equally with leech conferences. they'd demand a Texas-like share of the proceeds, which would further separate the haves and have nots, conference-wise

and i doubt many would really want elite teams to get even more home games (and further separate their revenue generation from lesser teams, even within their conference)

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they somehow pull off this massive logistical feat in Division III.

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the revenue from 1 home game for an elite SEC team likely surpasses the budget for a D3 team

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What about the 3 Big Ten schools who finished 11-1 with the same conference record?

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So you would include all 3 Big 10 schools, just because they don't play a conference championship game like most other conferences?

As for Arkansas, does everyone really think that the 3rd best team from a conference deserves to play for the NC? That's the real argument between the 4 team system and a 16 team system. IMO, I don't think they deserve to.

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the ACC and Big East have no power

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That's your opinion regarding the ACC. Like it or not, they're still a power conference.

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SEC and Big10 disassociate from them and form a new entity like the BCS

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And that's not going to happen. The status quo is much better for the SEC and the Big 10 than breaking away and forming their own deal just to get a playoff. Also, a playoff doesn't benefit the SEC...take a look at the past 4 national champions and getting 10 out of 12 teams in bowl games this year.