re: Daytona 500 - Will Trevor Bayne be the savior

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why is it showing that he has 0 points in the standings? since he won the race, shouldn't he have at least 44 pts in the new system? there were also 3 or 4 other racers that were in the race that are showing 0 points earned. confused.

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In a post race interview, he said he had a points card for the nationwide series, but not one for the Cup series. First I've heard of it. Maybe it's cause he's only signed up for 17 races.

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you can only compete for points in one NASCAR circuit this year, and he chose to compete in a different one

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I guess NASCAR is trying to keep full-time Cup drivers from winning Nationwide championships. Seems pretty dumb to me. If that is point, then don't let em race in Nationwide. It'll be pretty dumb watching a "Kyle Busch" completely own that series but not be awarded the championship.

You make a lot of valid points and I agree with all. I don't think drivers as accomplished as Busch and Harvick should be driving in the Nationwaide series. But guys like that fill seats and drive TV ratings. IMO, if you're gonna use those guys to further the series, and they beat out the rest of the field, then award them the driver's championship. Don't award the championship to a guy that technically finished 5th or 10th in points.

Yea but those guys are there just to fill seats. The series was originally about development drivers and until 2006, no decent cup driver ran the full season. before that it was guys like Truex who won in 04 and 05, before moving to cup in 06. Vickers in 03. Then all of the sudden sponsors wanted Cup guys running full time. That is the only reason Carl and Brad are doing it this season. Because of sponsor commitments. With the way the points are now, sponsors will return to guys like Sorenson, Cassill, Leffler, Bayne, Stenhouse, etc who are not in the Cup Series.

The Nationwide will return to the way it was because after this year, the demand for a Cup driver running the full season will be gone because the focus is now back on the young guys. What NASCAR did was better for the longterm future of the Nationwide Series. It might now make sense with Brad running the full season this year, but it will next year and the years after that.

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What NASCAR did was better for the longterm future of the Nationwide Series. It might now make sense with Brad running the full season this year, but it will next year and the years after that.

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Not really. That championship will now go to an undeserving driver instead of the champion. And you'll see drivers that drive that series, leave that series. Big time sponsors will find another marketing avenue because they can not win the championship with a true champion.

How many big time sponsors can you envision sponsoring Sorrenson and Sadler? There's a reason they're no longer in Cup. And subsequently they'll get second rate sponsers. And the Nationwide viewership and tv ratings will suffer.

geauxtigers2, they said earlier it was around $1.5 million. That's not finalized though.

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How many big time sponsors can you envision sponsoring Sorrenson and Sadler? There's a reason they're no longer in Cup.

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Because they were on awful teams that were never even given a chance to win when they showed up at the track. Take Sadler for instance - went from Wood Brothers where he won a race at Bristol in the 21 car, and left for Yates when they were near the end of the prime and won a few races with them. Somehow Yates ran into a debt problem and was having to not spend as much money into the cars. UPS and M&M's left, now they're merged in with Roush and haven't been competitive much at all. Sadler left there and moved to Evernham who was having success with Kahne. As soon as he got there, Evernham sold out to Gilette and nobody knew who was in charge or what to do. The organization then bought out Petty for some reason, and it was so mismanaged that they couldn't keep Bud or Kahne on board. Sadler wasn't given a contract because of how poorly the team was doing, but can you really blame the driver when equipment fails constantly or getting wrecked most of the time?

Sadler is a good driver when he's in good equipment. That's why he opted to do trucks/Busch this year because he didn't want to sign on with another team and not have a chance to win. Harvick is pouring money into his teams, and I'm sure you'll see him at the top of the points in both series at the end of the year.

Hell, that's the problem with NASCAR in my opinion - less than half the field shows up with cars that have a chance to win. The exception of course being restrictor plate tracks where everyone is basically given the same car. Sponsors are happy when the driver is on tv and promoting the product by running up front, it's not all just being a big name.

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That championship will now go to an undeserving driver instead of the champion

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The only driver that would have a chance at winning the Nationwide championship this year that is full time in Cup is Brad because he is the only one running the full season now. After this year he probably wont either, so the championship will go to a DESERVING driver because that driver will HAVE THE MOST POINTS no matter what because all the Cup guys wont have raced enough races to win the drivers championship.

And btw, if Sorenson had driven the full season last year, he would have finished 2nd in points behind Brad and ahead of Carl. Dude was top 5 every week for the 26 or so races he actually raced. thats why he has Dollar General as a full time sponsor because his car did get good tv time.

Also like some guy said, with the focus on the nationwide and truck only drivers, sponsors will start to flock toward them again just like they did before 2006. Im pretty sure first rate sponsors will sign with guys like Sadler, Sorenson, Bayne, Stenhouse, Almirola (already has 1st rate sponsors), Leffler because they will be the guys comepeting for the championship. But sponsors will ALSO stay on board for the 20-25 companion races that people like Kyle Busch, Hamlin, Kahne, Harvick, Menard, Bowyer, Carl, Biffle, Logano, etc run. But since those guys wont be racing full time it will give development drivers great sponsors and a great chance to shine in the 10-15 races these guys dont compete in.

I mean Allgaier didnt even have a ride before the new points system was announced. When it was, Brandt came to Turner Motorsports and told them if they got Allgaier for a full season, they would sponsor the car for the full season. Why? because Justin was the 3rd place finisher in points last yaer and with the new points system he would be a smart choice to win the championship.

And no the Nationwide nor the Trucks will lose viewers or tv ratings because all the cup guys like brad, kyle, joey, kasey, and carl will still run a lot of the companion races which is what they do now. Kasey, Kyle, and Joey dont run the full season in Nationwide but run a lot of races. Why? for track time and to help that team win the OWNERS CHAMPIONSHIP. Also, the stand alone nationwide and truck ratings arent suffering for viewers and they usually dont have but one or two cup guys there.

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I wasn't aware but, the Wood Brothers only had plans to run 20 races this season due to finances

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The Wood Bros have been like that since the David Pearson days. They would focus on winning at the tracks they were set up to run great at and not really focus so much on a championship.

i gave up nascar when rusty wallace retired. me and my brother both.