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re: Chris Paul Plans to Meet with Rockets in Free Agency

Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:34 am to
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:34 am to
Mate??!!
Posted by Raghavan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:40 am to
Chris would leave at minimum $50 million on the table by going to another team and if it's a team like Houston or San Antonio he would leave more than $100 million on the table as neither of those teams can give him the max
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25415 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 9:29 am to
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He just wants to be courted like every other guy who goes through the FA process. Don't see him giving up all that extra money LA can give him unless he honestly thinks he can win a ring with the Spurs.



probably right, but what do you think the difference in actual money that goes into his pocket is between playing in Cali and Texas?
Sure he can have a higher salary with LAC, but is the difference in the long run actually that big when you consider taxes?
Posted by Raghavan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 6/16/17 at 9:32 am to
He would net more anually in Texas than in California if he got the max from both places but doubt any Texas team has the cap space to give him $40 mil per
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/16/17 at 9:39 am to
The spurs are at $90M in salaries
They could easily give Danny Green away, at $10M
Pau has a player option at $16M. I'm sure he'll keep it since he sucks, but if he somehow opted out, then they would be at $64M and could probably get to $62M if they needed to.
That's $40M in cap space, and they could do a S&T to go over the cap.
so yeah, the spurs can get the cap space to max someone.
Posted by Raghavan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 6/16/17 at 9:51 am to
Pau isn't going to opt out so they will have $80 mil on the cap and will only be able to offer Chris $22 mil which is about $20 mil less than what the Clippers can give him
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/16/17 at 9:57 am to
Doc really messed up the Clippers, man oh man
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25415 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:06 am to
I'm sure if CP3 really wanted to sign with them, they'd find a way to get rid of Pau as well.
Posted by Raghavan
Member since Jun 2017
182 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:11 am to
You have to take back money in a trade, this isn't MLB where you can just trade away contracts for prospects. The chances of Pau opting out are damn near 0 so they don't really have a shot with chris
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:25 am to
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You have to take back money in a trade
Not always

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this isn't MLB where you can just trade away contracts for prospects
Sure, some teams can

This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 10:26 am
Posted by Raghavan
Member since Jun 2017
182 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:27 am to
There are no prospects in the NBA only draft picks who count against the cap if they are first rounders and you have to take back a certain percentage of money . The only salary dumps are for expiring contracts but the season is over and guys contracts have already expired
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:37 am to
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and you have to take back a certain percentage of money
Again, not always.

Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22391 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:41 am to
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Only a casual fan would judge a player. Especially one of rynos caliber. By a sample size as small as one years playoffs.


Why are you using periods like they are commas? Is this the evolution of your troll game?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25415 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:41 am to
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You have to take back money in a trade

No you don't.
Philly has cap room coming out their arse. If they want Pau, they can trade from him and give back a fake second.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 11:23 am to
Only teams over the cap have to take back money in a trade
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27304 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 12:14 pm to
The Rockets could let Nene, Bobby Brown, and Troy Williams go in free agency for $10.4 million, trade Ryan Anderson with no salary back to bring it to $29.3 million, and then let go one of Ariza, Lou Williams, or Eric Gordon.

Getting rid of Lou Williams means a total of $36.3 million.


Would I want to basically trade Nene, Lou, and Anderson for Chris Paul?

I don't know. Would y'all do it if you were the GM?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 12:37 pm to
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Would I want to basically trade Nene, Lou, and Anderson for Chris Paul? I don't know.

Would y'all do it if you were the GM?


If you're asking would it make the team better, yeah.

I think we've learned that it's not the deeper teams that advance in the playoffs, it's the teams that are top heavy.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110607 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 12:59 pm to
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Would I want to basically trade Nene, Lou, and Anderson for Chris Paul?

I don't know. Would y'all do it if you were the GM?


Certainly
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27304 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 1:14 pm to
Well that's true but it leaves a total hole at PF.

They never really had a back-up PF to begin with. Dekker and Ariza would fill in at back-up PF.

And then you lose Anderson as your starting PF? There is a huge hole there.

Another concern is that the Rockets already had one of the best offenses in the league. Does this move improve them defensively? I don't think it does much defensively. Maybe slightly. Does it improve them offensively? I don't think it does much there either.

The main positive is that maybe it helps them be more consistent in the playoffs. When Harden is your only star, it makes it harder when they key in on him and you have to rely on role players to step up. So maybe it would help them to be more consistent in the half court.
This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 1:17 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 1:23 pm to
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And then you lose Anderson as your starting PF? There is a huge hole there.


Is it really that huge? He really wasn't very good this past year.

You telling me that Dekker at PF couldn't perform at least as well as Anderson was this year?

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The main positive is that maybe it helps them be more consistent in the playoffs. When Harden is your only star, it makes it harder when they key in on him and you have to rely on role players to step up.


That's a pretty big positive. The depth you lose is much easier to obtain than another elite player is. You can always get more depth.
This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 1:25 pm
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