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re: Check this Astros shift against Joey Gallo
Posted on 5/12/18 at 12:51 pm to ShamelessPel
Posted on 5/12/18 at 12:51 pm to ShamelessPel
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Wouldn’t Gallo know the pitches they’d use to keep him from hitting opposite field and use that knowledge to try to crush them over the fence?
Yes, furthermore th damn batter can move in the batters box. A pitch is only inside if you are in your normal stance. If he's throwing only inside, scoot back some. It's only a strike if it's over the plate he can't throw more inside. Shift your batting stance to where an inside or outside pitch is not necessarily that way. It's like choking up on the bat.
Furthermore, you don't even have to bunt. A bunt is holding the bat trying to get the ball to die before it gets to the dirt. Just make freaking contact the other way. As said, you could get a fairly easy double.
The whole game is not for one pitch. People say well he hits home runs so that's all he should do. That's laughable. Most importantly, if you play the shift as a batter you get the fielders to move back to a more normal shift which then helps your normal swings.
I just don't understand letting one side shift so extreme and doing nothing about it.
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Posted on 5/12/18 at 12:59 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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but a bunt past the pitcher anywhere to the left could be a double. If he's paid to get extra base hits, well then, there you go.
No it wouldn't. This isn't little league.
Posted on 5/12/18 at 1:01 pm to okietiger
That's ridiculous.
Posted on 5/12/18 at 1:02 pm to baldona
It's amazing how many retards in here don't understand why teams employ defensive shifts with their infielders. It's because that hitter is more likely to hit a ground ball or line drive to that side of the field. It doesn't mean Joey Gallo cannot hit a ball the other way. It means, more likely than not, that if Joey Gallo does hit a ball the other way, it will be in the air.
Hence the reason why the first series of the year they played him with four OFs.
So many absolutely retarded comments.
Hence the reason why the first series of the year they played him with four OFs.
So many absolutely retarded comments.
This post was edited on 5/12/18 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 5/12/18 at 1:22 pm to FulshearTiger
That shift is saying that gallo will absolutely 100% hit it to the right. No “more likely” to hit it right, he will hit it right.
It’s a obviously a good strategy against poor hitters like gallo, but it’s why I can’t watch MLB consistently. The offensive “strategy” is unwatchable
Also, never forget that LSU signed Bregman and Gallo the same year.
It’s a obviously a good strategy against poor hitters like gallo, but it’s why I can’t watch MLB consistently. The offensive “strategy” is unwatchable
Also, never forget that LSU signed Bregman and Gallo the same year.
Posted on 5/12/18 at 1:32 pm to DBG
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That shift is saying that gallo will absolutely 100% hit it to the right. No “more likely” to hit it right, he will hit it right.
You're wrong.
Posted on 5/12/18 at 1:40 pm to DBG
quote:OPS+ & wRC+ of > 100 demonstrate that he is emphatically not a "poor hitter".
It’s a obviously a good strategy against poor hitters like gallo
There's a reason modern teams don't employ a bunch of twigs who choke up with 2 strikes, hit .280, and produce less runs than these monsters who have extreme shifts employed against them.
Posted on 5/12/18 at 1:47 pm to Louie T
A hitter not being able to hit to all fields at this level is laughable.
Posted on 5/12/18 at 2:00 pm to lynxcat
Feel free to employ a bunch of hitters who spray the ball and proceed to lose to the teams that have guys who produce more runs.
The two don't have to be mutually exclusive, but Gallo being a poor hitter and this being laughable are patently false.
Gallo produced 23% more runs than the average MLB hitter last year.
The two don't have to be mutually exclusive, but Gallo being a poor hitter and this being laughable are patently false.
Gallo produced 23% more runs than the average MLB hitter last year.
This post was edited on 5/12/18 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 5/12/18 at 2:03 pm to Louie T
He should have situational ability to hit the other way in this extreme positioning. The defense then stops the shifts and he can continue to do what makes him successful. Acting like him hitting the opposite way in these extreme situations changes his entire game is a fallacy.
Posted on 5/12/18 at 2:07 pm to lynxcat
Pitcher is at an inherently gigantic advantage. Hitting the inner black at 95+ makes that a tremendously difficult task.
Posted on 5/12/18 at 2:13 pm to lynxcat
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A hitter not being able to hit to all fields at this level is laughable
And it's not hit in the traditional sense. It's make contact to the opposite field. It's not nearly as hard to merely make contact to get the ball between 2nd and 3rd base.
I also disagree with the idea that lower hitters should concentrate on power. That's the easiest field I've ever seen in baseball to get on base. Take what they give you sometimes.
Posted on 5/12/18 at 2:15 pm to Louie T
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Pitcher is at an inherently gigantic advantage. Hitting the inner black at 95+ makes that a tremendously difficult task.
As I said, back off the plate then.
Posted on 5/12/18 at 2:16 pm to lynxcat
Are you too dumb to realize he can and does hit the ball to left field? However, when he does, it's usually in the air. Go look at his spray charts and maybe you'll understand why a defense shifts this way.
The fact that you think a hitter can just decide to hit a ground ball to SS with MLB level pitchers throwing 98 with 90 mph sliders is fricking retarded.
The fact that you think a hitter can just decide to hit a ground ball to SS with MLB level pitchers throwing 98 with 90 mph sliders is fricking retarded.
Posted on 5/12/18 at 2:22 pm to FulshearTiger
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Are you too dumb to realize he can and does hit the ball to left field? However, when he does, it's usually in the air. Go look at his spray charts and maybe you'll understand why a defense shifts this way.
Are you too dumb to realize that's against standard fielding positions and small shifts.
Just because a hitter hits one way doesn't mean they can't adjust too. We aren't asking for even a mediocre adjustment here, he has 60% of the damn field open.
Posted on 5/12/18 at 2:24 pm to baldona
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re you too dumb to realize that's against standard fielding positions and small shifts
What the hell are you talking about?
Where the fielders play has nothing to do with the results of where/how a hitter makes contact and the resulting launch angle.
Also, teams shift Gallo every single AB. His spray chart absolutely nothing to do with normal defensive alignments or whatever you are trying to say.
Posted on 5/12/18 at 2:26 pm to baldona
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We aren't asking for even a mediocre adjustment here, he has 60% of the damn field open.
Yeah so you're just asking for a ground ball to short or third. See my previous post.
Posted on 5/12/18 at 2:28 pm to FulshearTiger
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Where the fielders play has nothing to do with the results of where/how a hitter makes contact and the resulting launch angle.
Lol, yes where the fielders play has an affect on how good hitters swing. And no they don't shift him every play if there are runners on for example.
I understand the guy has extreme tendencies. I'm not asking him to morph in Tony Gwynn. But not being able to simply make contact to put the ball into left field is absurd for anyone that's played the game long enough to be in the majors.
Posted on 5/12/18 at 2:31 pm to FulshearTiger
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Yeah so you're just asking for a ground ball to short or third. See my previous post.
Well you clearly didn't see the link to his stats. Because in normal fielding positions or slight shifts he actually does hit the ball quite often on the ground or bloopers to left. He just heavily favors right. Let's say it's 80/20 right. Given that, you are telling me with absolutely no one in the left field area he can't change that by 30-40%? Come on
Posted on 5/12/18 at 2:45 pm to baldona
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Lol, yes where the fielders play has an affect on how good hitters swing.
No, it really doesn't.
I've never once seen a Anthony Rizzo alter his swing to hit a ground ball to a vacated shortstop. He still swings like Anthony Rizzo.
Not to mention, most teams would be ok with these hitters shooting a ground ball off field.
This post was edited on 5/12/18 at 2:51 pm
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