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re: CHC Thread | STL (Weaver) vs. CHC (Hendricks) | 1:20 CT

Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:26 pm to
Yep. It would be interesting seeing the percentages on big FA who bust and or end up far underperforming after signing as opposed to being productive and providing good value commensurate with said contract. It seems lately its just a roll of the dice.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:27 pm to
I think Cardinal fans might actually stake claims on moral victories more than Arkansas fans, and that's saying something.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:27 pm to
I want JD Martinez in LF after next year, unless he wants some insane deal as a free agent.

Wouldn't mind a few years of Cameron Maybin in CF either, best option out there this class.
This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 3:31 pm
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:28 pm to
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You're happy with him? Im not bagging on the Cubs but he isnt even remotely worth what he is getting paid.

Not happy with his offense. But he's a 1.4 WAR player carrying an awful offensive year. His defense is unmatched. That's not what we signed up for, but he's not sandbagging it and I will never hate on him.

I am frustrated, sure. But I'm not done with him.
Posted by BCMCubs
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:28 pm to
Matt Szczur folks
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:28 pm to
SCZCUR
Posted by bwallcubfan
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:28 pm to
Hail Szczur
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:32 pm to
Im not sure you understand what a moral victory is to be quite honest.

No one is happy about losing baseball. Team needs to retool and makes some changes. Those things cant happen when mid market teams have extensive payroll tied up into overpriced free agents that drastically underperform.Seems like pretty down to earth common sense talk from a fanbase that understands the line the club has to walk financially. We are not making a run this season. Why cant we have discussions about the future?

Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:32 pm to
Yoink #2 this inning.
Posted by BCMCubs
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:32 pm to
SOLER POWER ACTIVATED
Posted by bwallcubfan
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:33 pm to
SOLER POWER
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:34 pm to
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Im not sure you understand what a moral victory is to be quite honest.
You trying to justify it being better that an automatic gold glover chose another team over you, your rival to boot, is very easily a moral victory claim. It is complete fact that St. Louis would be a better team with Heyward and Price on the roster. Convincing yourself otherwise is delusion.
This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 3:37 pm
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:36 pm to
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Not happy with his offense. But he's a 1.4 WAR player carrying an awful offensive year. His defense is unmatched. That's not what we signed up for, but he's not sandbagging it and I will never hate on him.

I am frustrated, sure. But I'm not done with him.


I get that. Another reality is that Cards fans have to look at deals like these through the lens of a mid/small market club. Heyward just isnt worth what he is getting paid. You dont pay light hitting RF's with world class defense $25ish million a year.
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:36 pm to
Not getting Heyward is a better outcome for STL than Pujols going to LAA. No need to justify something that worked out beyond excellent for the Birds.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:37 pm to
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worked out beyond excellent for the Birds
Clearly.
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:38 pm to
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You trying to justify it being better that an automatic gold glover chose another team over you, your rival to boot, is very easily a moral victory claim.


Ask any GM in the game right now who they would rather have:

A young cost controlled Piscotty or Jason Heyward.

Im sorry you cant take off your blinders and knee-jerk to your usual nonsense.

Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:39 pm to
Right.

Would be a death sentence to many franchises to pay a guy $200 million that is worth about 15 cents at the plate.
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:39 pm to
I dont get all the vitriol from some of these Cubs fans.

Wierd.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:39 pm to
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Ask any GM in the game right now who they would rather have:

A young cost controlled Piscotty or Jason Heyward.
Any team with even decent payroll would take Heyward in a heartbeat.
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